ISU-152 HE shell range should be reduced?

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 17:18 PMAlphrum

the isu152 being countered isnt the problem (this is hard to do btw as axis dont have cheap 60 range, high pen TDs), its the HE shells that can 1-2 hit and delete squads at ridiculous ranges, at times making it impossible to react to

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 18:57 PMthedarkarmadillo

Does the 60 range, high pen of the SU85 help against the elefant? Or is it possible that you are not meant to counter 260fuel casemate armour with the end that goes boom facing you?

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 20:13 PMAlphrum

pair of them can but srsly is the su85 the only thing that can counter an elefant? its much eaiser countering an elefant then an isu152 which can delete some of its counters in 1 hit. isu can engage both tanks and inf so please, curb your ignorance elsewhere.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 20:13 PMAlphrum

pair of them can but srsly is the su85 the only thing that can counter an elefant? its much eaiser countering an elefant then an isu152 which can delete some of its counters in 1 hit. isu can engage both tanks and inf so please, curb your ignorance elsewhere.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 21:01 PMthedarkarmadillo

Not at the same time it can't. Try combined arms. And make sure the ones that go splat stay away from the end that goes boom.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 21:04 PMAlphrum

So being able to 1 hit squads at 60 range, leaving no time to react is OK?

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 21:04 PMAlphrum

So being able to 1 hit squads at 60 range, leaving no time to react is OK?

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 22:35 PMToyvendor

If im ahead or even in the game when isu hits the field, i can turn my brain off and let it win for me.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 22:44 PMthedarkarmadillo

Easy bots aren't very good at mounting a counter so I believe it.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 18:22 PMDoomlord52

Anything less would be inconsistent. Every vehicle with the ability to counter ATGs head-on has been nerfed fairly severely: Tiger, KT, Brummbar, Scott (sort of, with the scatter changes), Pershing, etc.

Even in the current balance preview patch, the OKW Tiger lost its "Panzer Commander" upgrade for this exact reason.

Leaving the ISU-152 as the sole exception, while also having it perform much, much better than any of the previously nerfed units doesn't make sense.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 18:22 PMDoomlord52

Anything less would be inconsistent. Every vehicle with the ability to counter ATGs head-on has been nerfed fairly severely: Tiger, KT, Brummbar, Scott (sort of, with the scatter changes), Pershing, etc.

Even in the current balance preview patch, the OKW Tiger lost its "Panzer Commander" upgrade for this exact reason.

Leaving the ISU-152 as the sole exception, while also having it perform much, much better than any of the previously nerfed units doesn't make sense.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 13:13 PMT.R. Stormjäger

You have Elephant/Jagdtiger in teamgames. L2P

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 17:18 PMAlphrum

(this is hard to do btw as axis dont have cheap 60 range, high pen TDs)

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 21:04 PMKatitof

ISU has worst accuracy against infantry in the whole game.....

Sure, it can potentially erase something in 1 hit, but why are people constantly ignoring the fact that 10 other hits will miss?

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2020, 08:40 AMKatitof

What if... now sit tight.... its MEANT to counter ATGs... because you know.... it outranges them?
Its a unit designed to wreck static defence from long range.


Outside of being limited to 1, these units have nothing in common, so using one as example of what should happen to other is void point.


The unit -IS- a sole exception.
Like many other unique units.
All the other units are either stock, much wider available, can't be killed by 1 tank or 1 AT infantry squad getting next/behind them or much more mobile, often a combination of all of the above.

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2020, 10:46 AMAradan

Axis need cheap 60 range TD, something as JgPzIV.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2020, 21:45 PMGrumpy

The models would have to be tightly clumped to have a 1 hit wipe. It's usually two hits at a minimum, and it's reload speed is terrible, as is it's rotation rate so it's not like you have no reaction time. Nerfing the HE range would pretty much remove it from the game.