Profile of Mr Carmine

Increased MP income when you possess fewer units, which allows you to rebuild your forces more quickly.

Non FU answers to FU units (AT guns) meaning that you can always be in the game even if your expensive vehicles have been taken out of action.

This is not an exhaustive list.

Yes you are right and these should be put in coh 3 as they are good mechanics.

All the mechanics like abandoned vehicles, plane crashes, etc. absolutely make the game much more fun. And I do not want to lose this, all this gave me a lot of emotions in the game.

I coudnt agree more. It would really be a massive loss if abandon mgc etc would be left out or relegated to a special mode. Also keep the current target size and accuracy etc. The not 100% garanteed outcome and unexpected events that can turn the tables are great.

If it becomes to clean cut and predictable its just not a fun game imo. Then matches are going to be decided in the first few moments and take away a lot of fun.

Also biggest wish is letting factions have the same basic tools with some slight difference in how and when. And please dont give 4v4 the same economy system as in coh2 giving one side a massive advantidge over the other.

Allow me to be clear Ostwind is not UP. (pls stop beating a dead horse)
The main issue with it imo is that is that a PzIV is better investment while arriving only a bit later.

That is why I suggested it should be balance around 80. Imo it could also become better vs vehicle. The changes would promote its use and thus the use of other vehicles like SU-76.



No they should not be. The vehicle is there to hard counter infantry and not the the way round.

Imo the main issue is that it both suppresses and does damage at the same time.

I agree that the p4 is a better/safer investment. Its ai is closer to the ostwind then the ostwinds at is to the p4's at. The p4's ai as i said before is a bit to good. Its main gun kills 2 models ver very often where other mediums struggle a bit to kill just one. Killing is always better then just doing damage over time.
The p4's one hit kill radius is the best out of the mediums while having 3 mg's to top it off.
Lowering the p4's ai power a bit and droping the ostwind down to 90 fuel imo would be the best choice.

I agree your suggested change would promote the use of the su76 wich is great. The su76 however still doesnt scale well.
I also still dont think giving a faction like ost with such a strong and solid late game and the greatest mg in terms of supression another supression platform stock is a good idea or even neccesary.

Do tanks sometimes beat td's? Yes all the while td's hardcounter tanks. Now dont get me wrong the flacktrack should hardcounter regular inf but at inf should be more of a threat to it then now. Its not a case of black and white, both should be effective and threaten eachother not one absolutly beating the other.

I have not used a historical argument.


Glad that you agree that Ostheer weakness is the lack of light tank.


Puma's performance has not see significant and similar to OKW. Not sure why you want to debate Puma's balance thou


For around the 10 time now I have not said that Ostwind is up, pls stop putting words in my mouth. You have agreed to my point that Ostwind is not good at fighting light vehicles so pls stop beating a dead horse.


What would be the point of AI vehicle that can not fire on the move if it was countered by infantry?

Do think AT infatry can attack other AAHTs?

I read that part about 37mm costing as much as a t34 so its at is not a bonus as such.

Yes indeed with other strengths

I am not debating the puma's balance. You say that the puma back in the day showcased ost being weak vs light vehicles. I dont agree.

You have not used the words directly, yet you keep comparing it to the p4 and where it is not as good despite it being closish in fuel cost. Please use different aproach then if something is not up.

At inf should at least be a decent threat to it. Shrecks and zooks with alpha damage stand a better chance doing decent damage before being supressed.

Ostwind has a 37mm gun and cost as mush a T-34/76, being able to damage vehicles is part of its job and not bonus.


I can't say I agree, ostheer main weakness is the luck of a light tank or light tank counter and the popularity of the doctrinal Puma is very strong indication of this.

Imo the issue with Ostwind has more to with fact that is not that cheaper from PzIV which has good enough AT and far superior vs all type of vehicles.


Imo the issue with OKW AAHT has more to do with damage it does and less with its suppression speed. I personally would test two firing modes one that did damage and one that suppressed but did less damage.

Historical facts dont make good balance.

Every faction needs weaknesses next to strengths. I dont see it as a weakness when ost excels elsewhere. Their lv (not lt) fase comes very early is quite potent it allows ost to deal the damage before it takes it from the say t70. Wich a teller one shots.
The puma was just bonkers, ptact highly mobile decent ai and at that could deal with mediums to an extent and great vision. It was just much easier to use and didnt reley on planning and posistioning.

The ostwind is the ai and aa vehicle of t3, the p4 the generalist of t3 doing all jobs a decently, the stug is the dedicated at of t3.
I dont see how you can say that the ostwind is up because it cant fight all vehicles that the p4 can. The ostwind excels over the p4 in ai aa and costs less as it should. Its also 25 fuel cheaper a 5th of the price of the p4.

That the flacktrack supresses so quickly that guards and penal or ptrs cons get next to no shots of because they can even aproach it makes it a bit to strong. Esp considering it has stock smoke. Although supressing slower does mean it ll do more damage. I am not sure wich is worse/better.