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If you agree that Ostwind currently is not that good vs vehicles especially on the move, which is what I have posted, we can simply move on.


I personally do not like vehicles that can suppress on the move.

Imo if a vehicle has suppression that should probably come from a timed ability and it should do reduced damage at the time.

In the case of the OKW AAHT one could have 2 different firing modes one doing damage the other trading suppression for damage.

I already agreed that its at isent very good. Its just not its role its a bonus that it can fight lv's, it shoudnt be an issue for its preformance.
Imo to many ost vehicles overlap in aa ai and at in varying degrees. This is what makes the ostwind feel underwelming.

Agreed suppression on the move is bad as it makes vehicles way to potent. If it should be changed (wich i still think it shoudnt as ost has the highest suppression mg stock) the timed ability as vet ability, replacing blitz, increased price,do reduced damage and have a long cooldown.

The okw flaktrack supresses to quickly, toning that down a bit should do the trick imo.

Its just that its a liability now for a large part of the game. As people get one lv per game, getting it for the single lv while the zis does the same job and scales much better only hurts yourself.

Its ai round as it is now is pointless. This if done right lets it scale into the late game.

I would suggest you focus more about what has been actually posted than trying to "guess" things that I have not actually posted. Comments more about redesigning the unit instead of buffing it.



I am not sure if was clear enough. What I actually suggest is not that the unit should has its cost reduced but be "balanced" around 80 fuel. That means that is current performance vs infatry should be lowered to much the new price. (similar changes could be done with Centaur although the centaur/AEC combo might prove too good)

The reason I suggested 80 fuel is that the bigger the fuel difference with PzIV the bigger the window of opportunity for the unit to pay for investing in it.

But this thread is about adding suppression and we are drifting of topic

You should read your own post. Their was next to no guessing on my part. You stated the dev teams point of view and agreed with the ostwind being subpar for cost and stating several issues regarding its at power and accuracy. There is almost no room for geussing. I dont want to focus on this guess or not any further

Now that you suggested nerfing it to put it 80 fuel makes sense. The window of oppertunity being increased as well. But then allowing it to supress by default is still not a good idea, the flack is already excelent cuz it can supress next to the mg34 they control inf to effective this way.

Also

Not really and that is part of the reason Puma was so popular.


Point I made here is that Ostwind in not that good vs light vehicles/light tanks because it misses allot and since I do not see you questioning it so I guess you agree.

But this thread is about a suggestion of adding suppression so I do not intent start debating "stock ost line up".

Imo the puma was popular because of how good it was and not that ost is/was lacking in AT in any way shape or form.
Having the best and snaring at gun, very good/best ap ammo mg, great hh at and strongest at mine stock required a bit of planning while the puma did not.

I did question it needing to be buffed in the regard you mentioned. That it misses a lot on the move is imo a non issue cuz of the reasons i mentioned before. It also doesnt need suppression because of how good the mg42 is, its also to durable and leathal for that and both require a substantial nerf to balance out. Dont fix what aint broken aplies here.

I didnt mean to discuss every detail/ost unit. I tried to prevent you from going into details by sticking to a broad as possible discription, wich worked. I usualy go into to much detail my self
I mearly wanted to state that ost has a very viable stock line up wich you cannot ignore when balancing a unit within that line up.
These proposed buffs are made in a vacum and soley on its costs. If we balance units on costs alone lots of units will need prices readjusted.

actually on the topic, yes I have noticed it. Although I do think allies in general are very low moral. People playing as axis are far more likely to try and regain the upper hand. Even after devastating losses. As discussed in the other topic about the mp bleed of USF, I think it's related to efficiency. Nearly all of the USF units have been nerfed over the years to reduce the ability of a USF player to hit axis players hard. Very little has been done in reverse(much less 1 hit kills now from brumbar yay). USF requires strong micro and awareness to be successful. You cannot lean on having many advantages over others.

I think because axis could just so easely win most games by far in 3s and 4s for a very very long time resulted in a lot more pre made teams for axis then on the allied side.
Being on voice chat makes it a lot easier to pickyourself up and reorganize after taking a beating, that and that axis higher effeciency and power of their units allows them to stockpile recources better making comebacks easier.