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Thread: Addressing the issue of ELO-hell.3 Mar 2022, 12:18 PM I was just spectating top 4v4 games, to see the SOV team mate counts, and saw an outlier. All top games were only one or two SOV players per team except one. Four SOVs at a higher rank area in the spectate list. So I loaded the match to see how it went but CELO told me all I should have known before even looking. Four SOVs in one game? At a higher ranking? How could this possibly happen? Three players are way below LEVEL 12 #RelicHappens In: Lobby
Thread: Addressing the issue of ELO-hell.3 Mar 2022, 04:25 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2022, 00:22 AMYourcall Also these stats dont support your claim that soviets are weak. Soviets are simply played by tons of new players only owning the base game. They also play OST ofcourse, but OST linear teching and more generalist units means its harder to fuck up. New players = bad players = higher loss streaks. I think you are stuck in a loop or dont remember the start of this discussion. Let me summarize for new readers: Graphs show: 1) Top 200 player matches show that axis win about 3% more than allies in 4v4. 2) Soviets are the worst performing army. 3) All soviets against Okw, Okw, Ost, Ost only has a 35% chance to win. 4) 3 soviets and a USF against Okw, Okw, Ost, Ost only has a 37% chance to win. 5) 3 soviets and a brit against Okw, Okw, Ost, Ost only has a 39% chance to win. Anecdote data (not facts): 1) I personally see SOV struggle in games. 2) I have seen more matches at Level 12 down that have 3 or 4 soviets than at higher levels. These are less likely to be wins. My Conclusion: - Soviets are weak in 4v4. - More soviets = lose. - Lower ELO sees more soviet matchups and lose more. Therefore, Soviet players at Level12 and lower are more likely to get stuck in ELO hell and have long losing streaks. Feel free to interpret the data anyway you see fit. I am not "bitching". I am using science and data to see if a problem exists for the benefit of players. Something Relic is not doing. But keep licking Relics balls and see how far you get with that. In: Lobby
Thread: Addressing the issue of ELO-hell.2 Mar 2022, 22:50 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Mar 2022, 20:48 PMYourcall Worse players have a higher chance to get a loss streak. Impressive insights. Maybe you should stop bitching and find some enjoyment in games you lose instead of getting bitter over losses. Maybe you should shut your dick smoking hole you whiny fuck! See I can make retard comments just like you. What I posted was an observation supporting my argument that Soviets are the weakest faction in 4v4 right no. And most susceptible to ELO Hell. What is your argument? "I am retarded gaDuhhhhhhhhhh" In: Lobby
Thread: Addressing the issue of ELO-hell.2 Mar 2022, 17:31 PM Another fun thing to do is go to SPECTATE and see the team makeup of the top page of 4v4 matches. You will see that soviets number 1-2 on a team until you get to level 11 games where it becomes 3-4 soviets. This is the entrance to ELO Hell. From level 11 (80% of players) down you have a stronger chance of losing several games in a row. In: Lobby
Thread: Addressing the issue of ELO-hell.1 Mar 2022, 07:16 AM I just looked at the Win/Loss for the last 6 games of everyone in a single match: My Team Me: L, L, L, W, L, L P2: L, L, W, L, L, W P3: L, L, L, W, L, L P4: L, L, L, L, L, W Enemy Team: P5: W, W, L, L, L, W P6: W, W, W, W, W, W P7: W, W, W, W, L, W P8: L, W, W, L, W, W Guess who won the game? Yes, ELO hell is a thing. You are 100% at the whim of the Relic server. In: Lobby
Thread: Addressing the issue of ELO-hell.28 Feb 2022, 05:49 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2022, 21:58 PMProtos Angelus God giveth, God taketh away. In the end it all evens out. Another satisfied customer of Relic Entertainment In: Lobby
Thread: Addressing the issue of ELO-hell.27 Feb 2022, 06:02 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2022, 22:55 PMWilly Pete If someone builds them in the back they must have ptsd from letting someone destroy their tech buildings I know right! Not sure if I should yell at them or hold them gently and let them cry in my arms In: Lobby
Thread: Addressing the issue of ELO-hell.26 Feb 2022, 21:43 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2022, 19:50 PMCrecer13 ...there are a lot of snowflakes right now in the game that instantly quit the game if it doesn't go so smoothly. I have seen a huge influx of morons in the game personally. Well they are either dumb or stoned, I cant really tell which. An example would be where a player builds their first building. Most experienced players will build it as close to the front of the base as possible. So units have a shorter distance to the front. Most noobs will build it right where they stand. Lately I have seen people run to the back of the base and build. So the units will now take twice as long to get to the front lines. This is just a simple example. Another is the huge amount of players running to most useless points on the map and camping them. These are all inst-loss moves. Not sure if I am getting better and just now notice this stuff or what? But it feels like the player base has devolved. In: Lobby
Thread: Addressing the issue of ELO-hell.23 Feb 2022, 14:37 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2022, 13:22 PMGiaA These aren't the odds for anyone... The total number of games includes games played by people who have vetoed them. Nice "data" though. As you and Hannibal have pointed out. The data estimations are not perfect. The post makes two points: - Example of possible ELO hell. - How fun is it for players to play the same maps over and over before they delete the game? This is one example of the RNG forced on players that can push them into ELO hell. What if: 1) You do not have the right commander for a certain map. You are now at a disadvantage to win. Then you get the same map 3-5 times in a row. 2) Certain maps have low win percentages from a certain spawn. But the match maker tends to keep shoving you in the same map and spawn locations so you lose games and ELO. Red Ball for example. I win 75% of games from the close spawns but lose 75% of games from the far spawns. Hamburg north east spawn is insta drop in most matches. The point is: the chances of getting bad spawns/maps is very low. But it happens. And people get pushed into a lower ELO. This is also an example of things I personally would change to make ELO hell less prevalent. But I do not expect Relic to fix this. This is way beyond scope for Coh2. Maybe Coh3. In: Lobby
Thread: Addressing the issue of ELO-hell.23 Feb 2022, 05:32 AM Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2022, 23:55 PMGrumpy What are you using for vetoes? Essen Steelworks - Too tight in city area. RNG shitfest. La Gleize - Too big and weird fences everywhere. Lorch Assault (West Wall) - If I get bottom I /L. Vielsalm - Too big and wonky city fighting. City 17 - Worst 4v4 map ever made by far. Total Games: 40177 Games on Nordwind: 2854 Odds to get Nordwind: 2854 / 40177 = 7.1% Games on Lienne: 3905 Odds to get Lienne: 3905 / 40177 = 9.7% So what are the odds you get Nordwind 3 games in a row? So what are the odds you get Nordwind 5 out of 6 games in a row? So what are the odds you get Lienne 3 out of 5 games in a row? In: Lobby