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Thread: Okw sWs truck is using secret machingun13 Dec 2018, 13:01 PM

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In: COH2 Bugs

Thread: Paratroopers hit rates18 Nov 2018, 12:46 PM

18 Nov 2018, 12:27 PMEuan

I see your point, but I don't think in principle there's anything wrong with having an elite infantry that drops faster than others to enemy fire. They're a 6-man squad with very high short or long-range DPS. The high received accuracy helps balance that, and also somehow fits with the image of a lightly-armed, behind-the-lines unit and adds flavour.

I think the underlying issue is that USF simply can't be expected to afford the upkeep of this kind of high-RA, late-game squad, along with all the early rifles and free officers it's forced to have. That's been discussed a lot and is one of the things the new tech mod is aiming to fix though

Also not sure about this part, isn't double 1919A6 the perfect choice for a high-RA, 6-man squad?

I made comments in the process of refining what I wanted to say for a moment.

When I heard it, I also thought that there could be a part where the glass cannons coincided with the concept of paratroopers.

I think that one of the typical glass cannon infantry is Fallschirmjager. And although it may be a personal opinion, I think Fallschirmjager is a difficult and undervalued unit.

However, since the Fallschirmjager is dropped with fully-upgraded, it is possible to utilize it momentarily, but Paratroopers do not have additional weapons in the initial state. For these reasons, I think Paratroopers are too difficult to use.

In: COH2 Balance

Thread: Paratroopers hit rates18 Nov 2018, 12:02 PM

Paratroopers are the only Elite infantry (need 3cp or almost last tier required) with basically 100% hit rates.
Also, changes in hit rates due to their vet increase are hard to convince.

The hit rates of few infantry, consisting of 6 men squad sized, according to vet increase are as follows.

unit / cost / reinforcement	0 vet	1 vet	2 vet	3 vet
Paratroopers / 380 / 28	100.00 %			71.00 %
Conscripts / 240 / 20	108.70 %	100.00 %		70.70 %
Guard Rifle / 360 / 27	97.00 %		85.36 %	64.02 %
Shock Troops / 390 / 31	100.00 %(armor1.5)		83.00%

These results are summarized as follows:
1. Considering paratrooper characteristics in 3cp, the paratrooper's hit rates spec is almost equal to the conscript after 1vet. However, considering the hit rates are almost the same, it is overwhelmingly inefficient in terms of reinforcement speed and cost.
2. Hit rates are much higher than Guard Rifle. In this case, it is difficult to say that the reinforcement cost, hit rates and versatility have a clear advantage over the 2 cp unit Guard Rifle.
3. Hit rates are much higher compared to Shock Troops (* armor value is 1.5, so hit rates calculated above must be multiplied by 0.67). This means that you are forced to do more damage by getting closer to your opponent.

With this in mind, the hit rates of Paratroopers are sometimes difficult to understand. That's why high-rankers rarely choose paratroopers instead of m2hb paradrops. (One reason is that an officer is reluctant to increase the squad size anymore).

Paratroopers generally think that they are quite a part of an elite unit, considering the cost (380 manpower) and the time of appearance (3 cp). But I think that these inefficient hit rates are one of the factors that make Paratroopers not worth the price. What do you think about this?

In: COH2 Balance

Thread: Grenadiers + HMG42s vs USF8 Nov 2018, 06:04 AM

7 Nov 2018, 10:48 AMCombatWombat

I ran the numbers for the full squad DPS for both volks and riflemen out of curiosity. DPS was taken at set ranges, chosen based on weapon profiles and typical distances.

Here are the results:

Dists: 5 / 7 / 14 / 20 / 23 / 30 / 34

Full squad DPS
Volks with 2x stg44: 27.07 / 26.35 / 22.11 / 17.62 / 16.55 / 12.02 / 9.35
Riflemen with 1xBAR: 36.76 / 32.67 / 21.03 / 17.24 / 15.72 / 12.20 / 10.62

Riflemen with BAR DPS gain over Volks with stg44
135.8% / 124.0% / 95.1% / 97.84% / 94.98% / 101.5% / 113.6%

Squad DPS gained after adding upgrade
Volks: 135.1% / 139.9% / 141.9% / 130.5% / 130.8% / 115.6% / 103.3%
Riflemen: 124.8% / 126.1% / 116.8% / 121.4% / 123.3% / 122.0% / 124.9%

Commets:
- Riflemen with BAR have a clear advantage over volks at close ranges (<7) but volks have the edge (barely) at the mid ranges.
- Volks get larger dps boost at close and midranges with stg44 upgrade.
- Riflemen get a roughly constant DPS boost across all ranges.
- Moving accuracy is not taken into account.

This is more relevant to my experiments and experiences. I think this calculation is right. The problem is that at least 3 Riflemen squads are equipped with 2BARs needed almost 120x3 = 360 munitions. This means that the volksgrenadiers and the manpower exchange rate take about ten minutes or more when the unfavorable usf assumes that it maintains exactly half the frontline and collects the munition. This timing is already in the phase of the light tank, or the beginning of elite infantry. After all, until early-mid game, usf is hard to fight to gain as much as we thought. This problem is further accelerated by the introduction of luchs and AA half-tracks. and, USF's rigid tier structure accelerates this problem.

In: COH2 Balance

Thread: Grenadiers + HMG42s vs USF7 Nov 2018, 11:35 AM

7 Nov 2018, 09:43 AMSander93

Anyway I've always supported a USF tech rebalance to fix the entire faction and a manpower reduction for Riflemen (with the saved MP going into weapon racks tech) to help their early game.

yeah, I agree with both.

In: COH2 Balance

Thread: Grenadiers + HMG42s vs USF6 Nov 2018, 20:54 PM

6 Nov 2018, 19:59 PMSander93

No need to experiment, the numbers are there provided by Cruzz. Rifleman with 1 BAR DPS outperforms STG 44 Volks DPS at every range. Low range DPS is over 150% more. Only mid range is close, but still about 120% afaik.

Is that really true? If that's true, then why am I wondering why this happens every time I experiment? The figure of 150% is also a big difference. I am aware of the difference in firepower that can not be reversed by RNG. For example, the DPS calculations show that the zero range DPS of the Penal Battalion Squad and the Pioneer Squad is 150% greater than the DPS. That is a very big difference that anyone would notice. Also, in a custom game, this difference is largely a result of many experiments. In many cases I trust the calculation of cruzz, but this time I have some questions about whether it is true or not. Is it just curiosity and can I get a link to that study?

In: COH2 Balance

Thread: Grenadiers + HMG42s vs USF6 Nov 2018, 19:52 PM

I do not think this person is wrong. The fundamental problem with USF is that Riflemen is always forced to approach the enemy. This is similar to how Fallschirmjager or Panzer Grenadiers feel much weaker than their original performance. This game is very difficult to use close combat specific units. This tendency is even worse for early games. The current Riflemen is unlikely to have a clear advantage over Volksgrenadiers until riflemen has a doubled BAR. (Experimentation with a custom game shows that 1BAR Riflemen has exactly the same performance as the StG44 Volksgrenadiers.) On the other hand, the speed and cost of reinforcement, and the overall squad number make it difficult to gain an early game advantage. Grenadier thinks it should be a unit supporting hmg, but nowadays the meta of the game is feeling that spamming Grenadiers rather than using hmg (mg42) is more like mainstream. (Especially G43). This tendency is deepened in a considerable number of high level users, especially in 1v1 games.

In: COH2 Balance

Thread: Tiger 1 need a very little Buff in dmg29 Oct 2018, 16:42 PM

29 Oct 2018, 08:46 AMVipper

What is the basis of this claim?

Try to calculate the probability that all faction anti-tank firearms will penetrate the opponent's faction and the TTK accordingly. Basically, there is a difference of about 30% in TTK in AT-gun, and more than 50% in case of portable weapon such as bazooka. The TD difference makes this problem even more serious.

For example, Sherman tanks have 160 front armors, so Panzershreck with 180 to 160 penetration ratio is 100%. But Bazooka has a penetration of 130 to 110, so it has a penetration probability of 61.1% against Panzer4 with 180 front armor. The problem is that both have the same price of 2 weapon / 100 munitiom (only strumpioneer is different, which is probably due to the the weapon unlock upgrade is not required). And this is why Allied players love the anti-tank weapons of the Axis forces abandoned on the ground.

In: COH2 Balance

Thread: Tiger 1 need a very little Buff in dmg29 Oct 2018, 05:54 AM

In this situation, TD is very difficult to balance. At this point, I agree that TD is very good at controlling heavy tanks. However, if the penetration of the TD is slightly lowered, the Heavy tanks can overcome the TD's attack, eliminate the opponent's MP, and run with little damage. Anti-tank measures in the case of Allied forces are relatively weak compared to Axis. In this case, I am afraid that I will completely lose measures against heavy tanks. Especially in 1v1, it is more difficult to handle than 3v3 or 4v4.
I personally prefer some buffs in heavy tanks as mentioned in the above description, but I think this can lead to new problems if connected to TD's nerf.

In: COH2 Balance

Thread: Why is the M20 so trashy?29 Oct 2018, 05:37 AM

Advantages of m20:
1. Unilateral attack on an opponent who does not have an anti-vehicle.
2. Fast maneuvering allows you to knock various frontlines alternately.
3. Can utilize versatile ability.

Disadvantages of m20:
1. Extremely expensive cost of 340mp, 70muni, 20 fuel.
(70muni is the cost of armor upgrades, but most of the m20s are deployed at the same time as pushing upgrades, which is virtually a forced cost.) If you do not upgrade this, m20's armor will penetrated by infantry rifles like as kubelwagen.
2. The DPS difference by distance is larger than other units, it forces micro. Using the m20 makes the user feel very burdensome.

In: COH2 Balance