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Thread: Infantry, mortars and MGs: relationship and scaling. 13 Dec 2020, 08:37 AM edit: double post In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Infantry, mortars and MGs: relationship and scaling. 13 Dec 2020, 08:36 AM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 06:42 AMporkloin Oh. Were you at least going to clarify something about mortar DPS, or are you just throwing mud? i actually made a post on mortar dps quite a while ago and you can find data on most indirect fire pieces there if you're so inclined. bottom line: mortars have a huge variance in dmg per shell (some (like the HM38) more; others (e.g. leIG) have less). that means in order to see a clear trend you need to do a lot of repetitions of a specific test condition to get reliable numbers. definitely more than two at least. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Infantry, mortars and MGs: relationship and scaling. 13 Dec 2020, 06:31 AM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 05:56 AMporkloin If it helps, I've also sunk 1,000+ hours into automatch games. well i guess that means no. anyway, what i mean to say is that accusing other people to have no clue about what they are talking about when, at the same time, posting some more or less random numbers you seem to have no clue about how accurate and meaningful they are... is walking on pretty thin ice. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Infantry, mortars and MGs: relationship and scaling. 13 Dec 2020, 05:22 AM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 04:41 AMporkloin How are you all so consistently wrong about things? Time to kill 1 conscript squad at 60 range. Barrage followed by autofire. ________ Pak howie: 20 seconds Mortar emplacement: 30 seconds 120mm: 44 seconds lieg: 1:29 GrW 34: 1:35 SOV 82mm 1:55 USF 81mm 1:57 i congratulate the effort to get some actual numbers into the discussion for once, but i'm not sure if you realize that running a test twice in cheatmod will give you anything else than consistent results. especially for sth like indirect fire which has a huge variation in damage output due to scatter. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: It's time for Main Gun Crits to go12 Dec 2020, 10:06 AM Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 08:36 AMVipper About RNG: It seem a number of people do not like RNG and have connected it "bad" events. People complain about "abandoned tanks", "main guns destroyed" and even about tanks missing or failing to penetrate. On the other hand I have not seen so many people complain when their tank hits four times in row with 70% probability to hit or when their tank penetrates four times in row with 60% chance to penetrate. That imo create a negative feeling associated with RNG. COH is game with RNG and imo that is part of its beauty. Having airplane crushes wipe whole armies as it used to be is bad design and the decision to lower the damage was a good one. On the other hand having plane crushes cause no damage as it is now in the patch preview is something I personally do not like either. that's pretty well summed up. rng always goes both ways, but while people tend to take even the most unlikely event for granted when they benefit from it, the experience of 'bad rng' is routinely blown out of proportion. i'm also in favor of keeping random criticals as they add much to the atmosphere and flavor of the game, but i'd rather tone down the effects where possible. for example, main gun destroyed could be replaced with a gunner injured or turret jammed critical as someone suggested earlier, or at least be turned into a temporary debuff. plane crashes being less deadly is also a step in the right direction, although i agree with vipper that the current damage could be beefed up a bit again to make it not totally inconsequential. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The mysterious ways of OKW tech 10 Dec 2020, 10:37 AM i don't get it. whatever you tried to bring across here seems to have gotten lost in mysterious ways In: Lobby
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] UKF Feedback10 Dec 2020, 06:19 AM Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2020, 03:07 AMGiaA [...] Why would 2 power levels separated by a global upgrade make Brits impossible to balance? The global upgrade just has to entail a sufficient trade off. (Price) If bolster is too strong increase its fuel price. [...] this so often gets neglected or forgotten in discussions about the whole bolster conundrum, yet the price tag it is one of the most straightforward ways to adjust the timing/power level of the upgrade. of course it does result in a sudden power spike, but so does the first tank hitting the field. and as long as the cost is adequate both will mutually delay each other and force a tech decision to be made. of course it can be argued that 5-men sections trade a bit too cost efficient at the moment, especially when hitting a critical mass, but this could also be offset by proper pricing, e.g. by implementing a higher reinforce cost after the upgrade to make 5-men sections slightly less economical. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: mainline infantry9 Dec 2020, 11:18 AM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2020, 10:54 AMHannibal I mean I can agree that it would allow more build orders, but on the other hand it would be confusing af if the Conscripts do not get a different symbol since you never know which Conscript got which upgrade and always have to click though them to check visually on the info bar. true, that might indeed be a nuisance at least or problem at worst. but maybe upgraded cons could receive a ui symbol to ease differentiation. In: Lobby
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback9 Dec 2020, 04:04 AM not a huge fan of the flat-out nerf to the isu-152's HE range, although i do understand the need and reasoning behind it. what in my opinion would have been a more creative solution is to tie its 70 range to an ability toggle, akin to hulldown for example, that limits or prevents movement and/or has some tearup or teardown associated to it. this way the 152 could retain its range advantage under certain conditions, but would also be easier to counter when caught off guard and require a bit more user input to be used to maximum effect. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: mainline infantry9 Dec 2020, 03:34 AM i like the idea of bundling both molotov and at nade into one package and reducing the price somewhat to make it less prohibitive (albeit not too cheap to turn it into a complete no-brainer). however, in case of getting just one conscript squad for the occasional sandbag and at nade in support for a t1 build this might still prove to be too expensive. maybe a squad-based unlock instead of a global upgrade could help alleviate this? ofc the price would have to be adjusted accordingly, maybe to 1/3 or 1/4 the cost of a global molo/nade unlock, but this would allow some more flexibility in terms of mixed build orders. In: Lobby