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Thread: How would you like the JLI to be nerfed?17 Jan 2019, 14:45 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2019, 10:44 AMSander93 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC46PDepyUA I think this replays shows that people exaggerate how powerful the JLI really are as long as they are not in a massive blob. Von's 1-2 squads trade well but are forced off frequently and are not winning the game for him by any means. When there are just 1-2 JLI squads operating seperately they are not that hard to deal with. Which leads me to believe that for now their combat performance is fine and that they just need a small cost increase alongside a cooldown increase to make them trade a bit less and prevent them from being spammed in blobs. That's a 60 minute video. Looking at the unit composition, it's up against an Assault Engineer and .50 cal composition which later deploys the Bulldozer: literally a doctrinal counter build. JLI as is beat the crap out of dual BAR Riflemen in a range 20 green cover fight and have the upper hand against LMG Paratroopers under the same conditions. They're completely off the curve. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The Overwatch Problem15 Jan 2019, 23:59 PM They were designed as a force multiplier unit: pretty trash on its own, but with strong utility, high LoS and they crits models other squads damage. In that concept, a JLI squad is worse than a Volks squad on its own, but a JLI squad and a Volks squad is better than two Volks squads. Right now they're cover-negating terminators competing with Advanced Emplacements for the most fun-sapping thing in the game award. These things beat LMG Paratroopers in a cover fight. If they want them to be force multipliers, nerf the shit out of the other models in the squad so they do less damage than Volks do if on their own. The crit sniper stays as is. If they want them to be elite AI infantry, remove the crit sniper. It does not belong on that sort of unit. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The Overwatch Problem15 Jan 2019, 23:40 PM They need to have good AI performance because they have to compete with Obers. Take that away and you'll never see them again, like before the patch. If they're meant to be an Obersoldaten equivalent then they should have Obersoldaten timing. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The Overwatch Problem15 Jan 2019, 23:07 PM If they're only meant to be countered by vehicles they shouldn't be CP1. Forget Penals, these things beat dual BAR Riflemen in a range 20 green cover fight. They're an absolute farce as is. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The Overwatch Problem15 Jan 2019, 22:46 PM The main problem with Jaegers is they've made a mainlineable unit that has massive advantages versus cover. They've made a unit that essentially forces blobbing. The 0.9 cover accuracy *has* to go unless these things are getting locked to the Schwerer Panzer Headquarters. I have every sympathy for the balance's team's position and the limited data they have to work with, but that change was a massive, massive mistake. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: It'd be nice if IR pathfinders were 0cp too.15 Jan 2019, 14:31 PM Curses! Hoist by USF's hugely distinct vehicle naming once again! Edited. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: It'd be nice if IR pathfinders were 0cp too.15 Jan 2019, 13:51 PM 80 damage ~~It's 40 damage now. Six shots to kill a 222.~~ In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How would you like the JLI to be nerfed?15 Jan 2019, 13:45 PM Jump back to quoted post15 Jan 2019, 13:24 PMJoshua85 Well I was not thinking that it should start on cooldown like for example osttruppen, but that they should get a 5 minute cooldown after each deployment. That way you could still theoretically get a fair few of them over the course of a game, but their spamming potential would be severely limited, just like their option as panic button (think pre-patch puma, though with a different purpose). I think it's a really smart idea, but based on what's been said by people involved in the balancing process before, they'd like to avoid build restrictions as a solution if they can. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: It'd be nice if IR pathfinders were 0cp too.15 Jan 2019, 13:40 PM Jump back to quoted post15 Jan 2019, 09:09 AMmiragefla The M5 is mainly an anti-vehicle unit and the other vehicles don't have the same health. Not since SBP it isn't. It got a 33% reduction to its main gun damage. Upgraded, it's about on par with the Luchs now. Greyhound vs Luchs is a pretty fair fight. Without the .50 cal upgrade, it's got a solid chance to lose against a 222. EDIT: mixed up the M5 and the M8, thought you were talking about the Greyhound, not the Stuart. hooray for USF's hugely distinct vehicle names In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How would you like the JLI to be nerfed?15 Jan 2019, 13:17 PM Snipers manage fine at 1 man. Making JLI work well in Artyspam Blobfest and making them not blobbable are probably mutually exclusive. In: COH2 Balance