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Thread: Recon Buffs21 Jan 2019, 13:12 PM That's for new commanders. Recon Support Company is an existing commander. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Recon Buffs21 Jan 2019, 12:53 PM The recent Greyhound thread got me thinking about Recon Company, and it's not that far off being a solid commander. Its main problem is everything in it needs munitions to function. Raid Tactics and Cluster Bombs are munitions abilities, I&R Pathfinders' main strength is their expensive artillery call-in, Airdropped Combat Group needs 80 munitions just to deploy and then another 100-odd munitions to upgrade the Paratroopers, and the Greyhound needs its .50 cal and Canister Shot to do its job. So here's what I've got. Raid Tactics This ability is one of the awkward frankenabilities DBP made when the DBP's design team refused to remove anything. That philosophy gave us old Mechanized, the only commander to get a second revamp. The solution's pretty simple: turn it into a normal Raid ability. It gives light vehicles passive capping like the WC51 and Kubel. Push it up to CP5 so that doesn't translate into a ton of easy map control early on. I&R Pathfinders Move them to CP0. If Pathfinders are okay at CP0, the weaker I&R Pathfinders probably are too. Airdropped Combat Group Remove the munitions cost and AT gun drop. Maybe just replace it with the normal Airborne call-in. The bundled AT gun is more a restriction than a godsend with the new USF tech structure. Possibly add the Airborne AT package to normal Airborne as a third upgrade path. It's not like it gets picked much anyway. M8 Greyhound Pretty much everything about this unit works but the timing. With its low gun damage, it's no more spammable than the Luchs and the need to upgrade its .50 cal to function properly serves as a second soft limiter on how many you can build. However, at CP5 it's competing with the Sherman, a contest it won't win. Solution? Tie it to tech. If two unlocks is too fast for the USF Luchs, make it two officers. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: About intel bulletins. Their UI and philosophy.21 Jan 2019, 12:32 PM The only change I'd make to bulletins is removing them from the game. They're a bad idea, a symptom of the 'mandatory progression system' plague infecting so many games in the last few years, and their impact is mitigated only by the negligible effect most of them have. In: Lobby
Thread: M8 Greyhound comes too late21 Jan 2019, 12:26 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2019, 12:18 PMBaba slow firing 37mm cannon vs burst firing 20mm it doestn lose because of weak armor or low dmg, it loses because of a lower rate of fire. IN such a 1v1 which you should not seek with either of those vehicles in the first place It loses because of low damage: it only does 40 per hit. Its main gun damage was lowered in SBP specifically to make it bad against vehicles. It'd beat the 222 without a .50 cal when it had 60 per hit. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M8 Greyhound comes too late21 Jan 2019, 12:09 PM The Greyhound is very good on paper, but hamstrung by its timing. The idea behind the revamped Greyhound is it's not a shock unit: it comes too late to fill an M20 or AAHT's role. It's meant to be a very efficient later game light vehicle. Thing is, when you get to CP5 (in 1v1) you're getting near the medium tank phase and putting a 70ish fuel delay on that first medium tank could be fatal. Therefore, you tend to delay until after your first medium tank. And that point, you might as well wait 40 fuel for a second Sherman, which is tougher and more versatile. The commander's fairly off-meta right now though and it can no longer fight the vehicles meant to counter it, so you might get away with tying it to tech. Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2019, 11:45 AMF1sh Against infantry, maybe. However, it loses to a 222 head-on, which is half the price. That's what it's for. It's a USF Luchs. It'll beat 222s with the .50 cal. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Teller mines20 Jan 2019, 14:43 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:44 PMddd But where is allied teller to discourage 222/luchs spam? Or does it work only one way? USF have a super-Teller that inflicts Immobilize. OKW, SOV, USF and UKF have nondoctrinal light tank destroyers. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Teller mines20 Jan 2019, 13:39 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:20 PMKatitof Tellers are one thing I never understood. Why is it oh so overpowered for 30 muni mine to kill 240 menpower, but its perfectly fine and balanced for 50 muni mine to kill up to 300 mp, up to 120 muni and up to 70 fuel? I sense a bit of hypocrisy in that. Sure, infantry, especially vetted hurts more to lose, but vetting it back is also easier and much cheaper then vehicle. The probability of triggering it. Unless you're baiting vehicles into it, you're just not that likely to hit any individual Teller mine, and if you put them in high traffic areas the sweeper's likely to spot them. Generalist mines go off on anything. Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:38 PMddd And what if i go triple t70 strat? Is teller fine then? Moreso. Discouraging that sort of spam strat is an argument in favour of leaving Tellers be. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SdKfz 250 call-in20 Jan 2019, 12:01 PM Simple solution is to replace the bundles with the 0CP variant from new Infantry. Mechanized Assault and German Mechanzied are hardly cited as OP doctrines, and sticking Assault Grenadiers in it when it still has a timing window to do something could be fun. In: Lobby
Thread: How would you like the JLI to be nerfed?18 Jan 2019, 21:14 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2019, 20:37 PMKirrik JLI do not need any range advantage, they can just A-move kill anything. 4 man squad with 0.8 RA and 3 grenadier rifles and sniper with 70% crit costing 250MP. If you think JLI are balanced or "slightly OP" there is to point in actual discussion with you That's not true. Their brokenness comes from being able to benefit from cover while simultaneously mostly negating their opponent's. Take them out of cover and A-Move them and they lose half of that advantage. They're still good, but not to an absurd degree. Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2019, 21:02 PMStug life i think the cover counter works well actually as it works only for the sniper rifle that deal almost 0 damage and just proc crits, i instead wold give the 0.9 accuracy vs cover to pathfinder rifle too No, the cover counter is the whole problem with them. Cover combat is a big part of this game and going JLI makes cover incredibly one-sided. JLI beat everything up to LMG Paratroopers in mutual green cover, meaning the only way to fight them with infantry is to blob up to point blank. Degrading the game into a 4v4esque blobfest decided by artillery spam should not be the goal of balance patches. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How would you like the JLI to be nerfed?18 Jan 2019, 20:01 PM That'd improve matters, but you'd need to scrap the new 0.9 accuracy vs cover too if you want to give them Pathfinder performance vs cover. In: COH2 Balance