What OP really thinks :
- Bring Back The USF Turbo Mortar for god sake.
- If i loose while playing USF, it's not me being weaker than my opponent but it's because of balance
- And lastly, if i spend even less time geting better and more time whining, things will get better.
What i think :
A guy (August1996) which is not even ranked in ladder with USF but complaining about them being too weak can ONLY make trash thread.
Proof : https://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/steamid/76561198141388658
The troll has come:
1. No I don't even use the turbo mortar when it was OP.
2. I was ranked with USF until I played 1 week after WBP then I stopped. 300-400ish because I had finals and didn't have time to grind.
3. Saying about my rank when you don't have the balls to display yours.
4. So losing against UKF and pre-nerf LM was totally skill-based and not a balance issue.
Yeah, constructive much?
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Ah yes now that the overpowered nonsense is nerfed, we suddenly aren't having fun anymore with USF. We see the same consensus with Soviets, although the DHSK is providing that easy mode playstyle still. Want fun? Go play OKW lol, sure as hell easy enough if you ask me.
Be patient and wait for the EFA to be standardized and then the WFA to be balanced accordingly. We will have a more balanced and fun game for all factions.
The easy mode factions this patch are Brits, Land Lease and OKW. Unlike Land Lease, Brits and OKW are still extremely easy to play, with Brits having the edge due to lots and lots of OP abilities. Against no DSHKA Sovs and USF, OKW is just simply equal in early/mid(provided you did not get rekt by flamer M3) and only stupidity can lose OKW the end game. |
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Thanks, will look into it. |
i can name 2 : Grw34 and ISG
Mortar pits say hi. Also you have the same problem as USF, it's not unique to UKF. |
I play USF a lot and I think that all of the OP strats of the past are gone (for good in my opinion).
The Stuart + Rifles + Mortar combo, finished with the Pershing or M10 is no more. Now you have to adapt.
If the enemy is OST you have to rush em with your M20 and kill the sniper. It will force him to spend some FU on a 222 (now is 30FU).
If the enemy is OKW, go for a stuart to stop his Luchs or go 4 some zooks to stop his Puma.
Riflemen are still better than Grens and Volks.
Yes the Stuart/Mortar was OP, I agree but right now the Stuart isn't even worth a damn if you want to get AI, it's just a light vehicle hunter and a reactionary unit since infantry units can just walk up right to it, faust it and cap right in front of it with only losing 1 model, probably none at all. I didn't even use the mortar much when it was super OP and still managed fine, the only times where I needed it was a smoke thrower and rest is 4 rifles. Stuart's main gun was obnoxious to play against when I play Axis, but MGs are never a problem.
And Armor Company cheese is still there, Luvnest uses it all the time. 3 Rifles, M20(for AI and mines at enemy base), Captain, Stuart(for AT) into M10/Bulldozer. If you're really ahead you can go Major and get Shermans. |
riflemen can throw grenades, pop smoke, duel equip bars or 1 lmg, can also equip bazooka for AT, lay mines (doc) and build sandbags (doc). please.
Well let's compare to IS shall we? IS can throw grenades(side tech, but it's not like you need them anyway), way better stats than Rifles in cover(eliminate need to close in and lose models against Volks and Sturms get wrecked if they close in vs IS in cover), build sandbags and password-protected trenches(non-doc LUL), equip double Brens or OP VICKERS(LMAO), can also equip PIATS for AT(not that you don't have cheap ass RE to put them on), have non-doc mines on RE(USF doesn't even have them unless you go LT). Please give me a reason why should I play USF when UKF has better mainline.
Oh and you can also upgrade them to 5-man squads. |
Is it possible you got used to all the OP nonsense USF had and now need to
#adapt
?
Come play USF in top 300 and come back. |
This is going to be a rant, and yes I played USF a lot in 1v1, not anymore now 1 week after the patch.
Ok, so where do I begin, oh yes right now I do not feel any semblance of fun anymore playing this faction in any mode after the patch. It feels like I'm playing pre-WBP Wehr most of the time. Kubel cheese into Panzerfuss strat that is picking up lately is seriously as cancerous as the Penal>M3>DSHKA>Sherman strat Penal Lease Union is currently used. My Rifles die like flies, I lose map control, OKW gains 90% of the map if played correctly and it then snowballs catastrophically. Against Wehr, once you meet better players sniper plays will be a lot more prominent and USF is helpless against well-microed sniper without diving with an M20. With UKF/Sov you can counter snipe reliably and the sniper is less effective against Sov's 6 man squads. Gooooooodd fucking luck flanking the sniper in time to kill it and if you fail you throw even more MP into the dustbin. Snipers will ravage you senseless all game.
USF's other problem also comes with the lack of powerful light vehicles, Relic always wanted USF to be strong start/mid, with hard tapering off at late. Right now, I can tell you that without the M20, most USF players wouldn't even consider light vehicles worth it this patch. Granted, the Stuart was OP, but now if I play OKW and I go against Stuart I just laugh and straight up ignore it because its AI is so garbage. The only reason Stuart is fielded is solely for AT duty and stun shot on mediums later on, hell you can even do even better just skipping it, put double zooks on RE and rush Shermans(or if you're feeling cancerous, go M20/Stuart combo into Armor Company callins). Mortars are also wrongly nerfed as I always stated that USF can go without a damaging mortar, just a long range smoke canister is enough. Add that to its pathetic range and buggy smoke barrage I just skip it in favour of more Rifles. Not to mention that USF still has no answer to MGs in stone buildings without blowing 45 muni to what, damage its health by 25%? LUL. Playing USF now is an uphill battle all game and if you didn't win by the 30 min mark, well enjoy a slow painful death against OKW vet and armor.
Extra mention goes to maps that have a huge middle finger to USF like Langreskaya/Crossing for having wipe open maps and Lost Glider due to having stone buildings covering the fuel left and right side having no blind spots at all, oh if you do, I hope you chose docs with flamers because if not enjoy wasting 90+ muni to flush them out. Hell, everytime I choose USF I remember that Penals are better than Riflemen and they don't even need BARs to compete with STG,LMG Grens anyway LMAO. Oh and non-doc flamers, thank you Soviets. |
Asking before I do it and lose all my hard earned skins |
More buffs to the Sov clowncar, just WTF on all levels, as if the clowncar isn't a almost competitive unit to Penals now it's turned into a must build. *facepalm* |