Profile of Bulgakov

Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2017, 16:13 PMbuttcheeksontoast

Wait am I just going crazy or what? I can't play right now but I could've sworn the m6 mine is the tm-35 clone you can lay with infantry, and the m5 is the one you get from the m20...

Jump back to quoted post28 Jul 2017, 06:01 AMRocket

Yes they nerfed the cmd panther, kinda.

Why is it every single game i play they can spam the arty flaires with upgraded volks??
I mean they can litterally do it the whole game then add it in with non doct support units, mgs pak howies and the stuka erases them???
It is the most cheese shit in the game especially when allies rely on weaker tanks and flanks, how when they can see us the entire game, annnnd then you have command panther on top of it??? Major recon should be free if arty flaires dont cost morey

I love axis bitch about rifle blobs but they have all the tools that null allied blobbing but say hey you xant blob but i can because we dont have nuclear bomb sutrmtifers that fire from fow. Any of you wver tried to send 1 rifle double barred against 3 lmg grens, hr cant even make it into firing range before he has to retreat

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2017, 17:25 PMOutsider_Sidaroth

Is this a stealth request to give Wehrmacht another Wunderwaffen?

Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2017, 07:33 AMSiphon X.

...and I guess everybody agrees with that (other than those that find diversity irrelevant). You sounded earlier like you meant that diversity has no quality whatsoever.

Either way, the poll is not about balance. And actually I think it is also not about diversity either (because it doesn't ask if they diverse way in which FRPs are implemented is beneficial to gameplay; ok, you could argue that having FRPs allows for more diversity in how they are implemented). My impression is that the question is more about if the mechanic of FRPs helps gameplay, regardless of which faction it has or how it is implemented in detail.

In the spirit of your signature, I'll start a list of pro's an cons.

Reasons why FRPs could be detrimental to gameplay:

• Promote blobbing
  
• Reduce the value of soft retreats
  
• Reduce the penalty for being suppressed
  

Reasons why FRPs could be beneficial to gameplay:

• Add a strategic decision (tactical in case of USF) on when and where to set up the FRP.
  
• Add a counterplay mechanic to blobs (force retreat, barrage FRP)
  
• More usefulness for static artillery
  
• Reduces downtime in a game
  

Feel free to add points to both lists.

Now, the thing is, we probably weigh the points above in a different way and thus come overall to a different opinion. For example, I personally (as stated before) am not convinced that "1: Promote blobbing" really is a thing and feel that the points in the second list outweigh the remaining points in the upper list. Other people value the points in the upper list more and thus come to the overall conclusion that FRPs are detrimental, and that's fine.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jun 2017, 08:01 AMSiphon X.

I don't think that that's a good point. Think about it this way: Take two perfectly balanced games. In one of them all factions play exactly the same, in the other the gameplay for each faction is different. Which game would you prefer?

It's fine if you say you don't care and you would enjoy both equally. But you have to at least admit that a lot of people will favor the second game over the first. Why? Because they enjoy the gameplay more with diversity. I guess everybody will agree that diversity won't trump everything else. But then I'd say that most people would favor a balanced and divers solution over an only balanced solution, no?



I'll tackle the first word first. As as I wrote somewhere on page 5 in response to Callum, I'm not convinced that Blobbing an FRP are as intertwined as some people feel they are. Maybe you can address my points there?

Or, conversely, to look at this post:



No doubt, that's frustrating. Let me tell another (totally fictional) story:



Or, in other words: FRP are an advantage for blobbers as well as people that properly smoke and flank. And I really doubt that blobbing will become less pronounced with FRP removed; it might actually have the opposite effect (see my previous post). The last blob I encountered was a Penal PTRS blob, so...

If the argument is that "OKW FRP is too strong/comes to early", FRPs are a nobrainer/have to little downsides, or what not: Well, I would mostly agree, but I'd consider those balance issues, not gameplay.

Now, on to the other word, "Strategists": I can agree with your description of "gameplay" that you give some posts earlier. As you noted, "gameplay" encompasses a long list of things. I have the impression that we have this discussion because the importance of things on this list is very subjective.

If the key thing for you is unit micro, I can totally see why you feel that FRPs are detrimental to gameplay because they reduce the penalty for a mismicro.

However, I'd say microing your units is not a part of the strategical aspect of this game. Strategy would more entail stuff like the commander choice, tech and build orders and, yes, a decisions like: Do I set up an FRP, when and where? So, I'd argue that a lot of the literal "Strategist" would actually feel like some element they can strategize about would be taken away with the removal of the FRP; so the removal would be detrimental to their flavor of gameplay.