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did u know that its AN ADVATAGE to put an entire squad into a car?
because this sqaud is now MUCH more mobile and doesnt bleed mp.

did you also know that a close combat specialst in such car can easily wipe mostly all squads (even on retreat...exspaccily when retreat)

Never said anything to the contrary. You are now changing the goal post.
Are you aware of the advantage in being able to quickly cap and goon enemy squads all of whom you can beat with a 96% chance of victory outright? (while not realistic to fight to the death, at the very least a unit is forced off the front and you do not bleed at all)

But to humor you, can you imagine what a transport with sturms would be like?
Or that the only way to actually throw a cqb squad into a transport in the timing where the Kuble is relevant to the discussion is:
Have a usf ally gift you a wc51 while you yourself went ass engies
Slightly after the Kuble timing:
Sappers in a Bren? (never seen this one before but I guess it's possible)
After 2 cp:
Shocks in a clowncar
Stormtroopers in a 250

And even now I'm not sure why we're talking about how much better a fuel investment and elite infantry together is and why that means the 210mp Kuble is in need of a buff.
Did you know the Soviet halftrack is bulletproof? Would you like to add that as a reason the Kuble needs a buff too?

All the Kuble needs is its vet looked at. As pointed out it's vet requirements are stupid high. That and shared vet would Absoultly be enough to make it more attractive (free self heal at vet 3? Boom best harrasment unit around)
Many okw units suffer from an inability to achieve their vet, which is a major problem and making it accessible does nothing but good for the game. The Kuble is no exception.

he compared it with the WC 51 which can carry a full squad which can shot out of it while driving...has a 4model close combat crew inclusive and can be upgraded with a MG.

so we are talking about the same WC51 then. the one that can cap but lacks any combat capability without doing one of the following:
-add an entire other squad to it
-add a 45mu upgrade
-decrew and risk giving the enemy a free vehicle...

you get more if you invest more, who woulda thought....

do try to think before you type...

now lets talk about the kubel...which will lose ANY fight ...even vs rear echelons. and it can cap.
not more..no more upgrade for muni, no squad inside etc...it has a turnspeed from a p4 and has armor like a gocart....

and speaking of thinking before you type, i ACTUALLY use the kuble so i know your claim is BS but decided to get it on the record with tests!

for the tests im attack moving the kuble at the squads in no cover, since the kuble is such a poor combat unit, worse than the unarmed wc51 i feel it would be overkill to throw them into green cover
(also if attacking a unit in green cover the kuble should be part of an attack not the only attack so its not really realistic)
10 tests a piece as that gives us a nice blend of good percentage numbers (nice and round) but also so i dont suck start a shotgun with the mind numbingness of it. if it gets close (like 50/50) ill do another 10x

anyways, the results! (have more pics too if you want em, as the fight begins each time and as it ends, time stamped and what not)

UNIT CARDS UP IN THE TOP SHOW VICTOR AND REMAINING HEALTH
all fights to the death

Rear Echelons

...which will lose ANY fight ...even vs rear echelons...

THOSE Rear Echlons (the results are going to shock you)

Combat Engies

Tommies

Rifles

Concripts

i can do more tests should you like (not today tho) perhaps with that wicked nasty wc51 crew against axis starting units like pios and sturms and volks and grens
i may also do kuble v penals just so we can see how that turns out

Ram maneuver its like a blitz, but only straigth into another tank .

but only availible when tageting a tank and has an engine debuff if it misses. also will disable itself if it hits. and also cant kill a kuble. and statistically will do more damage to itslef (full disable of all functions) than it will do to even a lowly kuble

tbh its nearly as hilariously silly as a mortar pit, unbraced, being able to tank an entire sturmtiger rocket

I agree with what you have stated.

It should be stationary or setup before it can suppress. Mobile Suppression would make it OP, so it is a NO for that. Make it like the Wehrmacht Doctrinal Sdkfz 250 Half Track where it has to setup before it suppresses. That would be great. To actually make use of this unit rather than a useless unit which it currently is. It is hardly adaptable in many situations. Vet is a problem because of its current requirements and lacking performance. It would do fine if it performed better!

Make unit cost more to 250 manpower.
Buff it, it requires certain changes.
Remove cap.

This is LITERALLY the way it was minus the toggle (which would make it even more vulnerable, unless you want the damage reduction the 250 has as well, in which case...mobile bunker...). i think even the price of the old suppressing kuble was 250....

to serve an actual purpose.

like early map control, synergy with sturms and map hax?
just because its purpose isnt what you want doesnt mean it doesnt have a purpose. it HAS a purpose, a unique purpose tailored to the unique faction. not everything in the okw lineup needs to be able to 1v1 their counterparts. like seriously, how is anyone going to stand against a combined sturmpio and kubledragon that you guys want? its a support/utility vehicle not a minute 0 KT.

Yeah but 222 already has the auto cannon for that.

With a 100% chance to pen the rear no less (note this may actually be out of date.. I remember them changing the pen to actually fall off instead of a flat 35. Idr what they changed it to)