That guy would have lost the Tiger with or without the ability. The game was as good as over (SU has full map control, and an endgame army popcap army). The Tiger was ambushed, and flanked at the same time. The dude only had PGs to support. Who sends their Tiger on their own to the front???
are u blind? sent on its own to the front? the sov player attacked the tiger, and the tiger was clearly supported, and it got deleted in a matter of seconds, even if it had 5 panthers supporting, it still would have been destroyed. you just seem to be obsessed or have an agenda against vipper, did he steal your girl or something |
I still don't know why everyone says the riflemen buffs were uncalled for people were complaining about them being underwhelming on the forums all the time. Lowest alpha damage, easily outnumbered and ultimately outfought by vet 1 volks, (until USF tech rework) hampered by extremely slow teching for LVs or TWs, etc. People bitch about double BARs but weapon racks into BARs were necessary just to catch up to Stg VGs and even then they could push you off the field if you didn't go .50 cal... I feel like people completely forget the whole span of time where USF players were opening with literally anything but riflemen, be it REs, AEs or even Pathfinders.
Why people bitch about the Gren-Riflemen matchup all of a sudden is weird since the buff shouldn't even effect combat at Grenadier ranges but I guess it's another thing to complain about with regards to Ostheer. Jackson and Pack Howie are another subject entirely but also both require reworks more than hard nerfs just because of how they fit into the faction. To say Axis don't get that same treatment is to ignore the Panzergrenadier reworks, the absurd and stupid Fallschirmjaeger buffs, the Ostwind...
Very much agree Pershing needs to be looked at if the Tiger is though. Especially versus Ostheer.
No one said riflemen are UP, they are the best main line inf in the game and stomp axis main lines. The problem for USF before against OKW was, because of starting MP, OKW could badly outnumber and swarm USF with volks, so it didn't matter how much better riflemen were, volks out nubmered them on the field. Now volks got cost nerf, MP nerf and riflemen got buffed. OKW spiked early game, and USF spiked midgame with the officers with teching, yet they addressed OKW but not USF. You don't even have to get bars to fight STG volks, volks are far more reliant on ther STG's then riflemen are on bars and volks are the ones that need them to keep up with riflemen not the other way round. Once riflemen do upgrade to bars, they roflestomp volks but yh for u thats fine. 1 bar is a good as 2 stgs (if not better), and you could dual equip them too, to make it even more 1 sided.
The only reason OKW now is playable in 1v1 is because everyone is crutching on the tiger in grand offensive.
Regarding, the gren riflemen match up, yh, rifles stomped grens, now they stomp them harder so yes, it does effect the match up.
Agree with jackson and pack howie on re adjustment and not just straight nerfs. |
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Clearly thers something going on with the decisions, when allied units are UP, they get straight up buffs (UKF), random unlcalled buffs for riflemen, random price decreases for the nades, then you have Over performing units like the Jackson, pack or pershing aoe? no changes.
When u have over performing axis units like the Tiger, Straight up triple nerf and under performing axis units? you get some crappy adjustments or trade offs, its getting ridiculous at this point |
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??? no change to the Pershing AOE??
i fully get the aoe nerfs on tiger and is2, but tiger also lost its vet 2 scatter as well lol. at least replace it with something else |
I played 2v2 winter preview toruney, and write what i feel about it.
5. USF
I think they are the strongest fation atm. RifleMan rekt every core infantry even if they waiting from heavy cover. they are insane strong. i think they need nerf. Also BAR is insane strong as well. And i think everyone agree with 'pak howi' is definitely 'OP'. 100% need nerf
been saying this for time, they absolutely sht on every other main line inf in the game, early game all the way through to late game but balance team aint go do anything, instead they nerf volks, buff riflemen close range damage (lol) and gave grens a almost unnoticeable buff to ther reinforce cost which does fk all. |
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Seriously latch, your drastically over exaggerating plus, its more dangerous for the enemy to capture ur support weps then to lose it to salvage. Your only mad because its something OKW has. If your issue it support weps being deleted then u'd be calling for nerfs for tanks too for shooting and destroying support weps. |
I think Sander93 responded quite clearly.
KT's mobility value is balance toward its amazon health pool and armor and firepower vs both infantry and vehicle targets. You can't have it all, and before you came (or one of your partner in weraboo community) with the Jackson example. Jackson doesn't have AI and that level of armor or health pool.
and where exactly did sander say this? he is just talking about its health in regards to snaring. Anyone can see the KT is under-performing. |
Hint for you, don't close the distance.
ffs, are you telling me right now, a sturmpioneer with shrek is equally as dangerous to an LV as much as penal/guard PTRS, rifelmen/rear echelons with bazookas or a sapper with piats??
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I'm just going to crash in here with a completely new topic.
With regards to the debate and vote on balancing heavies. Is the biggest problem currently not the Tiger I from the new OKW doctrine?
At least in 1v1 it seems that 90-95% of players use this doctrine which is never a good sign. So perhaps in spite of all other changes being made, something should be done here to make this viable but not dominating. I'm leaning towards making the full tech requirement just like with a KT, but I'm open to have my mind changed.
if the tiger was in other OKW Doc's you'd have more docs being used, when playing OKW how could u not choose a doc that comes with a heavy tank at 9 CP. If the is2 was locked in 1 doc only, that doc would be the most popular too in 1v1 for soviets.
and regarding all this snare nonsense, yes blackdream may have made a mistake (although not entirely his fault due to the game bugged) but i do understand his point as why riflemen and pfussies get snare range increase, when it would make more sense for a unit like grenadiers or sappers to be getting it. Or instead no one should get snare range increase to standardise across all factions. Ther usually has to be a reason as to why, (for example is this squad suppose to specialise in AT?, thus have the snare range increase? or in the case of grenadiers and ost as a faction struggle vs LV's thus needing snares with larger range etc) |
Pershing doesn't seem to be as cancerous as the OKW Tiger because it has less armor and HP, it doesn't have the OP arty dump where you just blob the tiger into AT gun positions, pop the arty so the AT guns are forced to reposition, whilst they are repositioning Fusis/STG Obers blob in and wreck them with their good/OP moving accuracy, then it's Tiger eating everything. ISU is pretty cancer but that is not universally applicable to all maps like the Tigers seem to be.
Maybe all heavies should have their HP reduced to something like 960, or increase their target size so they basically get hit every shot taken at them, it's pretty ridiculous the amount of times TDs will miss shots at Tigers. OKW Tiger Arty ability should be nerfed, locked behind vet 2 or something.
so u hav to bring the whole doc into play to prove the tiger is OP? lol k. btw that description sounds like a good use of combined arms, what else is the player suppose to do, attack 1 by 1?
Pershing has the same armour as the tiger (300 for both, correct me if im wrong) and only 80 less health (960 for Pershing and 1040 for tiger), so dont act as if Pershing is weak in terms of armour, you also have to look at the lack of 60 range TD's/ high pen for axis. Then, you have the main gun, Pershing absolutely demolishes squads, far more effectively then the tiger. If the pershing was in that OKW doc, it will be so much more cancer
edit- thx vipper for the correction on the pershing |
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