Yeah. I know. I just said one doesn't even need to flank to counter it, like in case of JT and Ele, so there is no need to lower the rear armour.
well right now is 340/155 , 340/110 seems more fair |
KV-1 is pretty weak, I would give it UT at best in the scale of this thread. Yeah, it has high rear armour, but without it, it would be completely useless. So there is that. Even now there is little point of building it. The only reason why it sees any action is becouse it has been put in one commander with newly overbuffed IL-2.
KV-2 doesn't need rework as a singular unit. The whole commander needs it. As it stands now, KV-2 is not worth its price for how late it comes and how easy it is to counter. Would give it UP in the scale.
ISU-152 is not in the same class of units as jagd and ele any more. Sure, when supported it can be worth its price, though only on the most favourable maps (that are also unfavourable 95% of other soviet units) It definitely doesn't need any nerfs to its armour, especially taking into consideration how quickly it dies when attacked from the front by TDs. In the scale I would give it 'ballanced', with additional description 'situational'.
i said rear armor of the isu 152 front is ok but medium shoots shouldn't bounce when close and flanking it |
You should really get your own 'Soviets OP' subforum in the ballance section. What you write is surely fun to read, but I think ShadowLinkX37 wanted some serious ballance discussion here.
kv-1 is a bit OT but more about desing and less about raw stats, it just needs less rear armor and more speed (to medium tank lvl)
kv2 need a rework
and isu 152 should be brought in line with the jagdT and ele rear armor changes
so he is right |
Quad is actually one of the best AA guns in game. It shoots down planes even at first pass.
KV-1 one is also too cost efficient.
KV-2 needs an overhaul and lower rear armor
Isu-152 needs lower rear armor
so
kv-1 OT
kv2 UP
isu OT
remove quad right ? |
add maxim (UT)
remove clown car
remove m20, m26, both m8 and sherman
at gun is already fixed (same as pak) bofors is just bugged
comet and cromwell UT
remove kubel
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Change slightly op to OT (over tuned) and slightly up to UT (under tuned) |
the problem with sov cons are: the high accuracy.
it s possible to pick up weapons. when you have a brit with right commander he can give double vickers...which is really on the OPNess line now.
or you get lmg from OKW/ ost units...which make them really dps/kill monster. for y low price and many utitlys
..... they have 1 weapon slot..... |
I did.
3 TDs, 2 tanks, ATG, AT infantry and P-47 against lone KT "supported" by 2 infantry squads.
What exactly was the problem there?
There would be a major balance problem if that KT was able to do anything.
yes so the fucking myth "axis armor opieopei" can be removed, now on the topic why would nerfing the range to 50/55 be too much ? |
Also, without even clicking the link, its 4v4, isn't it?
well did u click the video ? |
If only rak had a way to close on its targets without being seen.
if only said cloak had the movement speed, mans and detection to pass trough all the inf screening said tank |