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Or maybe its a premium tier with premium cost and units above T4 of literally any other faction with exclusively brits having a rough equivalent in form of hammer/anvil tech side tech....
Sov T4 is not on the same power level as ost T4. Same for USF, OKW is closest thanks to panther alone, but all of OKW tiers are 0,5 more potent then equivalents of other factions.

So now suddenly Hammer/Anvil is a side tech?

What ever you want to call Ostheer T4 it simply not cost efficient and that is why most people go for Tigers.

Lol, probably your first post of your life where you claim Ostheer have advantages.

You seem to know very little about me so pls try to stick to the Topic which is about Ostheer teching.

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are side-grades that delay getting tanks.
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The obvious error in the the medium tanks theory is one does not need tech only to counter medium tanks.

Ostheer need to tech because if they caught without proper counter they are punished hard and lose ground that becomes even more difficult to gain back.

A single light vehicle/tank is enough to create serious problems to Ostheer.

Before WFA T3 was the strong point of Ostheer since they had to play defensively until they could start pushing with their medium tanks. In the current patch Ostheer PzIV has lost most of its shock value while it becomes almost obsolete when allied TDs hit the field since the changes to hit and penetrate even at range 60 is simply too high.

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Katitof set him straight, but Vipper is stuck in trying to disprove axis weapon upgrades aren't free.
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Hardly the specific user comes with allot of weird theories like the one claiming that BP1 comes at no actual cost or that the "hammer/anvil" is not tech. This theories simply confuse things creating a distorting picture.

Button line is Ostheer don't really have an advantage due to their tech tree.

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Semantics. But still important, as for the allies, it gets expensive fast, and it does set you back.
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the source of semantics is the person using term like "exclusive upgrade bundles" and "premium expenses"

So if Ostheer doesn't get free tech, does it mean USF doesn't get free officer as well?

If one want to a comparison between the Ostheer and USF one could either consider things that unlocked by BP as "free" and Officer also as "Free" or consider that both things as having a cost.

In any case and imo the immediate impact of a unit with equipped with Thompson/bar or Thompson/no tech bazooka is bigger than the unlock of BP1, since in most cases the benefits of BP1 come over time.

But a USF/Ostheer tech comparison is more complicated since USF are more flexible while Ostheer tech is more rigid.

Now if one wanted to compare UKF tech with Ostheer tech both being more linear, I would point out that Ostheer tech is more complicated since it requires both a tech unlock and a building while that the Hammer/Anvil is more cost efficient than BP3. At a cost of 200/50 the benefit that come with Hammer/Anvil are probably worth it even if one does not built a Comet or Churchill.

Finally from my 2vs2 games I have seen more times UKF players successfully rushing to unlock Hammer/Anvil than Ostheer player rushing a T4.

if bf 1 was divided in 2 tech both 20 fu wich said granede up. and lmg up. would it change something ?

In that case Ostheer would become more flexible.

For instance Spamming grenadiers would not require going a G43 doctrine or having the option for early grenades would make assault grenadiers stronger.

The same goes for OKW that if they had the option to unlock the P.Faust as a side tech they would be able to deal with M3A1, WC and WC51 easier.

So, you hereby agree that this whole thread is not about the subject itself, it is about you disagreeing with him somewhere down the line, and therefore you creating a whole new thread to have the community agree with you in order to set him right? Jeez... Even the community disagrees with you here, yet you keep on pointing at katitof.

Well, that answers my question that I asked you on the first page of the thread why you don't just use the data available in the guides.

Dear Johnsmith you are off topic. Pls stop trying to derail this thread.

You are welcomed as long as you stay on topic, feel free to add you opinion on anything even remotely related to Ostheer teching.