Profile of Tiger Baron

You are too modest in expressing your views,though we are in agreement on the overall message which was well articulated.

Difference here is he's not a full-blown Axis Fanboy while he might be with an OKW Avatar but at least he's not biased.

On topic: as far as OKW is concerned, now with the semi-forced use of the raketen more people start to see it's limitations as an AT gun, altho I've found much use for it when garrisoned alongside an MG.

The other things I've noticed are: Lack of a tier 0 MG, that is the requirement of the MG34 for a deployed HQ truck, which is complete and utter bullshit and fun destroyer, especially if the entire team is made up of OKW players.

Squishy Sturmpioneers in the hand-held AT infantry role, I haven't really found them overwhelmed with work, it's a risk and reward factor of either fixing your tanks or defending from incoming Tank attacks, but I have to note down that I lose them a lot more than I lost volksgrenadiers, and I never did spam volks exceot for maybe once when I tried out the Firestorm doctrine for the first time ever.

The other thing is their side grades, now what I propose is that their Schwerer HQ truck receive an optional upgrade for the Flak to be manned so the OKW doesn't get any more "freebies" anymore BUT decrease the price of the other side-grades.

For your anti-garrison problem I suggest either flamethrowers (Firestorm) or an addition to the leig, smoke, or hell maybe even a mortar like the USF.

Can't really comment on the Wehrmacht other than the Grenadiers' survival needs to be buffed up with another 5th squad member and then of course they should be balanced accordingly so they don't become overpowered.

I would write better if THE GARDENING AUTOCORRECT FOR IPHONE WAS NOT IN THE GARDENING WAY

Oh, Pardon me then, carry on.

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Soviets can get a lot of utility out of their mainline infantry unlike anyone else, combine that with the squad being cheap and spammable, I'd say you get really good meat-shield/support infantry at times, as other people have said, they're good screening units, plus who doesn't like getting his tanks repaired by 3 of his mainline infantry units, as an example.

Grens late game if they dont upgrade to LMG are worthless
Volks late game if they dont upgrade to StG are worthless
Obers late game if they dont upgrade to LMG are worthless
Riflemen late game if they dont upgrade to BARS/LMG are worthless
Guards late game if they dont upgrade to LMG are worthless
Panzerfusilier late game if they dont upgrade to G43 are worthless
So yes, Unupgraded british infantry if they dont upgrade to LMGs in late game they are worthless

Let's break down the IS and see what you're comparing them to.

The Infantry Section is a T0 British main line infantry that needs to hug cover or else they're dead, compared to any infantry unit (except for the Osttruppen maybe) they can't even survive crossing a road to get to cover and will lose more models than any other squad for doing so. If caught off guard and out of cover, they're ineffective and effectively dead, like I already mentioned.

They cost 280 man power to produce and 25 to reinforce, starting out as a 4 man squad that can be upgraded to a 5 man one, requiring even more resources to improve their effectiveness, then you have to additionally pay for any squad already on the field to get that extra squad member which brings the price of any squad BEFORE the upgrade at around 300 man power. Which leads to the main weakness of the British and that being their man power bleed and less squads on the field at any given time, this is also one of the reasons we almost never see more than 2 IS squads and people spamming Sappers and emplacements, Sappers are a hell of a lot cheaper while emplacements may not be cheap but at least they don't bleed you like IS do.

Further more they require the unlocking of Grenades (The mills isn't really effective compared to the other grenades in game) and the weapon racks, each Bren costing 60 ammo while being less effective than the Gren's MG42 LMG upgrade for example, plus their optional side upgrades being the pyrotechnics/medic supplies that's around 150/160 ammo invested in a squad IF you have double brens and either upgrade on them, and I'm using double brens as an example because let's face it, the PIAT is the worse hand-held AT weapon in the game and people generally don't really use it on any other squad besides the Sappers from time to time.

Further more their Vet 3 is actually working against them rather than for them, meaning they get less out of their top most veterancy rank compared to any other infantry unit, especially the Riflemen's survivability buff at Vet 3.

So, compared to Grens, they're kinda balanced when both are in cover and long range early game, the IS lose to MG42 Grens even when they get a 5th squad member, and the Grens lose to IS if they have the 5th man upgrade as well as a Bren on their side, they completely get destroyed by a double Bren 5 man IS squad with or without cover, not to mention of the IS also have the medic upgrade. That's one of the reasons why Wehrmacht find it so effective fighting the British with support weapons (Snipers being most effective because of the bleed they inflict) rather than their mainline infantry. Now don't quote me on this but I saw a video before of the Grens getting pitted against the IS in one such scenario like my example, that's where I got it from. And yes, the Grenadiers do need a buff if you ask me, a 5th man would do them justice compared to now.

Rifleman, against a 280 squad but arguably better in almost any way, all 5 members are armed with the M1 Garand which is superior at Close to mid range to any other mainline infantry squad, get smoke with the unlocking of their grenades, double BARs and veterancy 3 can even enable them to fight Obersoldaten, I also forgot to mention they get AT snares with veterancy 1. The only thing the IS have over these guys is their medic upgrade.

Volksgrenadiers - Still cheaper than and more spammable than the IS, get a cheap close to medium range effective upgrade that helps them scale as storm infantry later on compared to the IS, 5 man squad right from the get go, no upgrades required for them to achieve their full effectiveness at long range. They were even better before with the Panzershreck that helped them vet really fast compared to now. Oh and I also forgot, 5 vets.

Cons - they're shit, I don't even play Soviets so I really can't comment on Soviet infantry but I think being a 6 man squad they get wiped a lot less than the IS and don't bleed man power as much, Soviets also have a lot of doctrines that makes Cons pretty good support units and gives them more utility so there.

He paid for the game which means he has the right to an opinion on whatever mode he fucking plays, so fuck your competitive 1v1s and 2v2s, Relic balancing it solely around that makes the game frustrating for people not so much in the competitive scene which is around 60 or 70 % of the CoH 2 community, non-competitive will always have more people than competitive because more people just wanna enjoy the game instead of getting frustrated about some stupid numbers in a video game.

On topic: I agree with the OP only for the lack of a T0 MG not requiring any HQ deployed on the field already and that the Sturmpioneers are squishy, if you want an early AT you have the raketen and thus nothing to complain about, everything else is fine.

The only problem is that the Sturmpioneers suffer from the same problem as the Wehrmacht Panzergrenadiers but compared to them they have more combat tasks to fulfill and have more veterancy than the PGs, meaning losing even one is a huge loss, and considering the Sturms are the only other option for repairs (apart from the Mech HQ repair pioneers).

Speaking of HQ upgrades, how about the Schwerer Flak HQ have an upgrade for it's Flak to be manned BUT we decrease the cost of the other 2 upgrades so it's fair, the OKW don't get anything free anymore (yes yes the grenade and upgrade unlocks are still free but they still need tech-ing so it's kinda balance, asymmetrically like most of you cry about it). Seems like a nice trade offer for me.