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Yeah it's a nice little mid game harass vehicle and weapon decrewer, I was dumb enough to get an AT gun out only to have it flanked by it which was annoying but eh, can't really say it's nerf worthy, still. I haven't faced it too often so I can't say exactly, just something to note. |
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Not sure if possible from a modding point of view and not sure how you'll heal the crew from inside the tank exactly without popping them out of the tank like USF, and quite frankly this would probably work best with USF. But yeah, I really don't have the time to try it but maybe if someone else does... |
You aren't paying that fuel for the unit only. There comes this pgren with it that has unique ability to upgrade inside the HT and on enemy territory (or it did last when i used it). (honestly it should come with shrek already for that price)
Have to try those again this weekend. Why on earth i did'nt even remember that unit is in MAD...
Just wondering that usually MADder jump tier 1 but if someone jumps tier 2 and uses that HT and PGrens as primary AT until Stug... this would apparently be insane and would fit my style of play... It would not be as bad as playing brits agaist super agro OKW...
I've checked the modding files and the Panzergrenadiers should be one and the same entity so they're no different.
And yeah after not playing a hell of a lot of time with Wehr (due to obvious reasons) I came back to it yesterday and enjoyed skipping Wehr's tiers and relying on my mech group like you said as my anti tank force, the only thing I found lacking really was reinforcing on the field with that stupid useless half-track that just wasted my fuel, I would have been better off with just a PG call in, 30 fuel for a taxi with paper armor is laughable, I'd rather save it for a StuG E or the Tiger. And I can't build a bunker since I need to stay mobile and conserve ammo. Really just a simple fix would be is to give it the ability to reinforce simple as that, no need to change meta or whatever and need for complex balance of other units in order to not make it useless, just give it some more utility and a reason for it to be on the field. |
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You'd be taxing the normal, casual none-competitive players too much, I'm not even sure half of them even know ground fire exists.
Spacing out infantry sounds better, you pay the price for having 2 squads bunched up and taking up all of the little spaces in a cover position.
Man having mortars with some sort of forward observers as their eyes would be awesome tho, as in, they can only bomb what their observer sees and relies back to them like in reality. |
Yeah, i have no idea...
Stopped playing ost after people realised that mortar is hard counter for OSTs soft counter for rifleman. And its bugging makes it useless effort to relocate mg42. Playing MAD, g43 rifles and OSTtruppen just to have a chance to outplay the mortar away is not fun after couple of games.
Are you certain about this?
and no they don't need armor, if they had more armor you could just trash rangers and shocktroops with them.
Have you ever tried to hunt down a damaged tank with with shrek Pgs in it? Its flimsy put it can give quite punch with shrek Pgren and people don't usually anticipate it.
...And maybe it should have some kind of small mg like UC...
I am sorry but I still don't see the point in paying 30 fuel for a unmanned damaged vehicle finisher, and yeah I enjoyed taking down tanks like that in CoH. Difference there was I'd get 2 half tracks with a Panzer buster squad in each and flank the poor enemy tank form the 2 sides, even better when the tank had no support.
But yeah to prevent it from becoming OP maybe increase it's price to 40 fuel IF it gets an MG upgrade and reinforcing ability. |
You have no fkn idea mate. Playing as OST is like being a German at a comedy festival... You're not going to have much fun.
Holy shit, got more??
I'm gonna plaster these all over /mlp/ board on 4chin when I get home
No, he is talking about body armour.
An option to further upgrade them for AI is good IMO.
By adding me.
If I play with 3 OKW, all I do is spam MG42 until the StuG comes along.
Issue is most of my team mates are metally challenged and 1 USF mortar shreds my MGs, so I abandon tactic.
Alright, but you add me since my profile is in my Signature. And I tried going Wehr with Mech Assault but found the Mech Assault group too useless with the 250, that thing is just beyond fucking useless, wish it could at least fucking reinforce other than having an MG either by default or as an upgrade to at least be able to defend itself if not to actually supress like the PE one. Damn I miss that old halftrack from CoH. |
Oh, well, should be the same thing as to why the UKF upgrade doesn't make their snipers and weapon teams have another man, so making an upgrade for Wehr affecting only one squad shouldn't be an issue to implement.
Yeah that's why I was wondering why medhood said it will take a little bit of effort, or maybe he wasn't talking about the same thing, Idk. |
I know that there are true problems in axis play but you don't even want to understand.
Ignorance is a bless.
Hey, I'm just frustrated like the OP said, I really don't have anything to complain about on either side, well, maybe except for the mortar pit, I hate that thing with a passion and I just don't understand why Relic won't replace it. |
It would pretty much depend on whether the model is already animated to be weaponless, which I'm not sure (Anyone ever see a Grenadier in the campaign not carry any weapons?). Adding in an additional model alone that can't attack shouldn't be difficult.
I was talking about the 5th member squad upgrade, having just one unarmed guy in the squad isn't really feasible for me. |
It's not that hard to mod. There's a variety of angles it can be done. I've made a global one before in an old mod in the early days of WFA, and more recently an individual squad upgrade that turned them into 5man Assault grens with mp40s.
That's a nice idea. I've been looking to "transform" them into a the Assault Grenadier squad with a changed name and icons but I'm not really sure if that's possible. Andy yeah I would just use the British one as a reference or just go ahead and copy it from there or something.
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