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Thread: Fall Balance Preview18 Jul 2017, 13:48 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 13:46 PMStug life but they didn't add the elephant buff, that was in the scope right ? Airburst shells were rejected by Relic on the basis of not wanting to alter the role of the unit. So, we're stuck with the bare minimum changes. On the other hand, Elefant TWP is a lot more useful now. So, that's something that the Elefant does better than the Jagdtiger now. In: Lobby
Thread: Fall Balance Preview18 Jul 2017, 13:43 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 13:33 PMvasa1719 Maybe need change points for kv-2, make same like with another heavy tanks ? We've overlooked doublechecking CP requirements for heavy units. That could be a nice idea. Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 13:33 PMvasa1719 What the reason nerf AA centaur but not buff his speed ? Still no nerf for OKW flayers in com panther docs, you think its balanced that you can use it in any part of map ? Why ST still can wipe tanks and make engi crits ? Where pop cap change for valentine ? or 12 pop cap is okey for light tank ? Where nerf to brumbar ? Wehre buff to sivet m42 at gun ? Out of scope. In: Lobby
Thread: Fall Balance Preview18 Jul 2017, 13:09 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 12:03 PM__deleted__ Fail Balance Preview (next time take a closer look at big and small caps ) EDIT: • Soviet captured or weapon teams in use have -2 population to match the population of other factions.* Does this means that a soviet player can get more popcap by having weapon teams in his base with only 1 member (1-2 popcap = -1 popcap) So if you have 100maxims in base with only 1 member you will technically gain additional 100 popcap to use (200 total) Or am I missing something ? This only affects non-soviet teamweapons. Soviet team-weapons cost the same popcap as before. Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 12:28 PMStrummingbird Feedback (pretty much what I gave re. original mod) Ostwind is too strong - without terrain collision it both snipes individual men and squad KOs at long range or on retreat up close Penal moving cooldown nerf is good Dushka suppression nerf is noticeable, unsure if sufficient Call-in cost changes are good, liking that it seems to be primarily a manpower premium so call-ins aren't a complete no-go; perhaps tweaking price more to further increase MP / reduce F premium would make for an interesting metagame / counterplay system Bug Tiger Ace costs 640MP only once BP3 is researched Thx. Tiger Ace is in scope; we just didn't adjust it yet. However, we copied the price reduction thing from the mod before adjusting the price. Oops! It's a shame you spilled the beans about Ostwind so quick though. I had been using the Ostwind as a classifier to separate people that had actually played the mod vs those that hadn't gone further than reading the patchnotes Ostwind and Stug will be a pain. We can't adjust T3/T4 costs & Panther; therefore Stug has to remain OP for its cost. At the same the Ostwind in the revamp mod is mean to be facing different kind of adversaries (i.e., useful Soviet infantry that are not Penals, etc). It's hard to make a right call about those two units yet, because our hands are tied behind our backs. About Call-in changes, I think that the premium is both Fuel/Manpower, unless we failed to implement something properly. M10 was an exception (even more MP) because of the particular tier structure of USF (strong infantry & free squads). Anything else is a bug/not intended Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 12:03 PMzarok47 Balance is centered around the top. The mortarpit still outranges any axis mortar (ISG got nerfed too remember) still has brace and can still be upgraded for a measily 160 mp, giving it the same cheap cost for 2 mortars it had before. I see no reason not to go mortar pit now. Having an indirect fire unit that can only be countered by other indirect fire is a fail at design, imo, as it leads to arty-fest. Mobile indirect fire units should be at a disadvantage when attacking an immobile indirect-fire unit. That's because the mobile stuff can pack up any time and harass any part of the game. At the same time, however, when you have 30-second Brace in the game, there's no point flanking the emplacements. So, that's a fail. Unfortunately, we didn't manage to convince Relic that Mortar Pits need to be made actually vulnerable to infantry (and no; lava nades don't count; there's a faction that's called OST that doesn't have access to lava nades). At the same time Brace, Cancer Commander and Forward Assembly are all out of scope. Let's see how that goes.. In: Lobby
Thread: Fall Balance Preview18 Jul 2017, 09:55 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 07:30 AMTheMachine ISG • "Veterancy 1 range boost replaced by Hollow Charge Shot. This ability is an direct-fire targeted anti-vehicle attack that deals 120 damage and has 200 penetration. Costs 15 munitions." This tracks moving targets, so it looks extremely rediculous as an artillery shell tracks a super-fast moving T-70 on a road. It also will be really frustrating for a tank to survive with one shot left and a tracking ISG shell random comes in and wipes it. This could be very abusable in 4v4 games, where arty spamming is normal, you get 4-5 ISG's and then you can wipe tanks. I don't think it's possible to spam ISGs anymore: - OKW no longer furnishes their weapon crews with stalinium armour; this means that ISGs/Raketenwerfers are actually vulnerable to small arms fire now - ISG has a really tiny range - The double-shot cheese that allowed you to fire two shots at the same time is gone - The insanity of the wide fire-arc that allowed ISGs to track targets anywhere on their arc instantly (and allowed people to AFK while their ISG was in range) is gone - FRP cheese is no longer available in the early game, to retreat the infantry blob at the first sign of trouble ~~At the same time, hollow charge has a long-ish aim time with a very obvious animation.~~ If you run out of the arc while this is aiming, the attack will cancel. If the attack does succeed, then that's 120 damage. At best, you're going to buy an ISG, use it for smoke, and the occasional barrage. You are only ever going to buy a second ISG if you lost your first one. In: Lobby
Thread: Sturmpioneer "W" Hotkey bug.17 Jul 2017, 13:31 PM Can any of you recommend any key to use for the upgrade (or the wire-cutters) that doesn't cause collision with any of the other upgrades (e.g., flamer/minesweepers), or the numerous sturmpio abilities? In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: Relic when you finally buff IS-2?17 Jul 2017, 11:07 AM Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2017, 11:00 AMCrecer13 This will not cancel that the IS-2 gun is very bad. He needs to increase the damage and accuracy, maybe a little penetration. The speed of the turn of the tower must remain slow. When you can no longer rely on 90FU Stugs to be the best AT unit in the game vs all targets, the IS-2 will force the OST player to make an actual investment for their late-game AT. That leaves a huge-ass gaping hole for the IS-2 to exploit. Or, when, as OKW you can combat blitz to safely and get insta-glue repairs, no amount of damage caused by the IS-2 can ever be meaningful; the IS-2 will just spend half the time repairing, while OKW armour will keep marauding. In both cases (assuming that the underlying causes are fixed), it's fine that the IS-2 can be soft-countered by AT guns. It's the KT performance vs AT guns that is broken; it shouldn't be the norm. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Relic when you finally buff IS-2?17 Jul 2017, 10:50 AM Or, just fix the Stug and OKW repairs, and the IS-2 will be alright. (source: EFA revamp mod) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Game-breaking IR Halftrack bug?17 Jul 2017, 10:28 AM Thx for the report. We already know how to trigger the bug. Unfortunately, we don't know how to fix this issue, yet. The bug triggers when the following things coincide: - The victim squad retreats while having suppression applied to it while being x-rayed It sounds like a freak occurrence. Unfortunately, where there's IRHT, there's MG spam, so it happens every single game. In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: Unofficial Revamp mod (EFA & WFA & Brits)17 Jul 2017, 09:28 AM There was a small ninja-update last night that hopefully fixes the following issues: - Soviet call-ins not losing the price penalty after teching - Reload icon missing from Reload MG - Commando smoke grenades/Sapper destroy cover being able to be cast on entities (and bugging as a result) - Universal Carrier/Churchill preferring paths that force them to go in reverse Also, some new things: Pathing improvements - Adjusted all vehicles/team-weapons in the game to prefer using forward movement to react to “right-click” commands. - Units will use a reverse motion, only if significant gains are to be had (e.g., if a path that uses reverse is 2 seconds faster than any other path that doesn't use reverse) - This doesn’t affect explicit reverse commands Churchill Increased the radius of the infantry support smoke buff to match the visuals; suppression modifier changed from -80% to -95% for units hiding in the smoke 17 pounder - Armour reduced from 3 to 1.4 (due to being TOO resilient to small-arms fire) So.. Let us know how the new pathing feels and how to make it better. In: COH2 Gameplay
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