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vetted Royal engineers can sometimes beat a SPIO. that says it all

Vetted SPIO can sometimes beat Commandos or Storms. That says it all :3

2. Rofl plz play the game before saying idiot things like this, thompson is far better, sten gun is ok with a slow ROF, and for an history point it's not the worst SMG of WW2, germans did a copy of this gun and give it to their boys

It will bring us into history discussion, but still - compare how much costed production of 1 Thompson and 1 PPSH/PPS, and you will see, why Thompson was bad for real war, and PPS became the best. Tommy costed too much, even after they tried to make it cheaper (but made it worse also), it still was overpriced as weapon for army needs. So, they made M3 instead of Tommygun.

Weapon for massive war and massive army suppoused to be cheap and easy to construct before everything. Using that logic USSR made PPSH and PPS, Britans made STEN, which was really awful, a lot of weapon-fans agree with that, M3 Grease Gun was more popualr in US army than Thompson for same reason - cheaper and easier to make.

ML20, B4 and LeFH* are not worth 600MP when they are insta killed by dive bomb.

*at least LeFH has way more survability because there is only 1 (?) doctrine with recon and IL-2.

I think howies should be better agasint vehicles. Give them chance to stun/lock main gun/engine damage or any other crit.

And maybe, let them have (small) AoE supress around explosion area? Would be nice.

Stationary howitzers are fine. 600mp is a fair price for what you get.

600 MP + DOCTRINE, don't forget, it's important! Doctrine choise for some factions (like USSR) means a lot. And for same USSR I have better performing Katyushas without any doctrines at all!

So, what reasonable man will do - take "mostly useless" howitzer doctrine and will play in late with howitzers, but without IS/KV/ISU or take doctrine with heavy tanks or something like that and use non-doctrinal and better performing Katyushas? For me answer is obvious - second and that's how I have to play today.

Artillery good + Heavy/other good units vs Artillery bad only.

Ok, idea is simple:

Not so much people today use howitzers in game, and that's reasonable. It usually reqiuers to take s**ty doctrines (like god-hatred Royal Artillery), they cost a lot of MP, eat a lot of pop cap, and they works mostly awfull. B-4, Sexton, QF 25, and even Priest! Only ML-20 and LeFH can do something real, but they are actually bad too. They just don't worth all invests, which you should pull in them.

But... Rocket artillery, like LandMattress or Katyushas performs perfectly! They just wiping out entire squads and buildings in huge areas and do that really fast! And that's what real artillery should do. So, somehow we get, that rocket artillery today is way more usefull as artillery, than Howitzers.

"So, what's a problem?", would you ask. And I will say - all howitzers in game are doctrinal (QF 25 is not howitzer, it's decoration for my base, just like flowers **) and mostly static. Meanwhile, Katyushas, Werfers and Frammens are able without any doctrines and all are mobile. So, they are not only more effetive, they also have better survivability!

Of course, howitzers have bigger range of fire and have penetration to deal with tanks, but... For to kill tank with howitzer you should be damn lucky, cos it requiers direct hitting of vechile (rarely happens, actually) and not just 1, because direct damage is not so high. So, Howitzers as long-range tank killers doesn't work, B-4 did it well before, but now it's only good to shoot at Hitler's mom ass somewhere in Berlin. And even that big target it will miss...

And bigger range is not such great benefit, because... rocket platforms can move closely and not only get to requiered range of fire, but also make accuracy better by moving even more close to target!!! It's twice more cool, than howitzer's "long range". And of course as I said - mobility grants survivability. Such horrors as Dive Bombs of PTAB attacks are not dangerous for them.

So, I can only suggest here pretty "weak" way of fixing that - change rocket and howitzer artillery places. Make Howitzers undoctrinal and able to build after getting T4, and place Katyushas and Werfers in old Howitzer doctrines. Maybe you will find better way to fix it.

And of course, it won't work with OKW, cos they don't have normal artillery, so, let them have Wuhrframmen in stock. (FOR GOD SAKE, GIVE THEM HUMMELS ALREADY! I REALLY WANT TO PLAY AS OKW, BUT I CAN'T UNTIL THEY WON'T GET ARTY!!!).