Profile of Lady Xenarra

Panthers are quite good on all 3v3 and 4v4 maps. Literally all. Don't know how you play your Coh but from what I've seen and have played against, Panther are used quite effectively at flanking and when they reach critical mass, you just crush everything by going around on the flanks. Nothing will be able to stop it. TDs can't really self spot so that the Panther feeds them vet. Of course, if you only go head on, it's not really a balance issue.

I generally try to avoid using Panthers outside of urban maps because my opponents cover their flanks with mines and AT weapons, so flanking isn't an option unless you are suiciding their arty. And as we both know, frontal engagements with TDs are a bad outcome. More reliable options such as the JP4 cannot be outranged by nondoc TDs and scale better overall.

Okay tell me how you can flank a TD group on Redball in the left or right area, covering the centre as well with AT guns and mines(with all the hedges destroyed of course)? Or Road to Arnhem where the distance between base and frontline is relatively short and mines easily shut down the far side approaches? How do you flank on Lienne Forest when they camp the town and mid? Go try your luck through the forest openings and hope they don't have it mined off and the constant stream of units don't notice you?

Remember, one mine is all it takes to stop your 185 FU Panther flank and they'll be merciless in destroying the crippled thing. One mine.

Key words: Critical Mass. An Allied team that has allowed you to spam 185 FU tanks has virtually lost the match already. Where's the pressure? The early fuel denial? Their early tank power via meds? Are they allowing the Axis team to have KTs/super heavy TDs? Might as well surrender if they have the fuel for this Panther blob o'doom. Hell I might as well get 6 Panthers if they're giving away all that time and resources.

Of course then there's 'General Allies' which is perfect for your flanking scenario and drowns the Axis players in FU, but I'm surprised most 3v3+ Allied players haven't vetoed that place yet.


Note: At no point do I say the TD vs Panther matchup is a bad one overall. It works well enough, though I do agree that the vet II pen increase was too much for TDs in general.

The panther has the best aspects of mediums and good aspects of heavies, such as armour hp and heavy crush.

I thought it lost the heavy crush years ago? Ie: rolling over hedges? Can crush infantry still but that's not saying much.

Volks behind sandbag OP!

Seriously, 10 range is almost optimal for that squad, at 8 range they have the vast majority of their DPS. If they get closer I usually press T unless I'm certain they've been shot to pieces. You need to force them to come to you (behind cover) or at least get shot up on approach from 35, which StG44s will do very well. They'll outscale you squad for squad but your squad is cheaper and can easily force them out of nearby cover (and cripple their dps whilst moving).....

WC51 is broken OP but being addressed in the upcoming patch. Will it require more nerfs? Time will tell.

I know you don't play allies Vodyani but try playing USF a bit and you'll see what I mean.

Pressing buttons is not the problem. The constant rotating and turning is. You need to reverse into combat, before firing stop, and then pull the brake so it doesn't constantly rotate when trying to fire. The engine probably is telling the computer to turn the HT the "right" way but the arc of fire is in the "reverse" way. Horrible. Also, AA HT needs to stop to fire the larger caliber shells. On the move it can only fire the MG which suppresses poorly. The main gun needs the HT to be stationary to fire.
God forbid that the AAHT is in trouble and you need a quick escape, that sh** will rotate and rotate. The smoke on flak + fast deployment > AAHT. AA HT is still good, no doubt, but cancerous and worst AA unit of all due to tracking and constant bugging out. Flak is also much better AI but is slower and needs deployment, which is fast enough but still needed. Also smoke.
So I stand behind that the raketen is a much bigger cancer for AA HT than anything else is for the flak, due to smoke mainly.

I do play USF from time to time, though mainly for meme or OP builds. Sometimes the AAHT as well, as it's so powerful in the CPT.

I can see (and have seen it in game) the forced rotation being a problem, but if you have the enemy in your rear arc, you have much bigger problems to deal with. Such as the fact that they have flanked you and have your retreat path cut off. With a flak HT you'd be in dire trouble as well (choose between standing your ground to die potentially or run off), M5 Quad less so but that thing has a very expensive upgrade requirement.

Of course the mobile MG has poor suppression, it can't be a proper MG on treads.

USF has an AA unit?

And raketen and paks discourage AA HT and Quads. Even more so the AA HT since it's cancerous to use and quite dumb when it comes to pathfinding/rotating.

'U' towards enemy, right click to escape is cancerous? o.O I mean sure to a newer player the odd configuration is a bit much, but to experienced players it's no real issue.

As it stands I think the trio of AA HTs are fine for anti-inf duty, just the flak HT trades firing on the move for better killing power. That said, personally I wouldn't mind having weaker setup AI power for firing on the move.