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I would argue that Coh2 started with a good base. As I've mentioned before, the OST was superb. The voice acting was well written. Coh3 did not meet my expectations for a good soundtrack or good voice acting. Most of it felt recycled from Coh2 but in a bad way. Like they hired lower quality voice actors than before. This unfortunately I don't see is going to improve over time unless they decide to spend an extra amount to overhaul the sound design which they probably won't. Thinking of the long term, the longevity of this game, its hard to see it will last long with such bad sound design unless an expansion in the future improves it.

While that's mostly true, I cannot imagine anyone leaving CoH3 because of inferior audio or stuff like that. There is simply way too little MP content in the game right now, it's just a matter of "will the game survive long enough until all the content is there". Because then I can almost guarantee everyone that CoH3 will do better than CoH2

I thought the massive imbalances were fun. Using E8 at launch was fun. Ost vs Sov was well balanced. T-34 vs Pz4 with no Panthers back in the day was loads of fun imo.

Not sure if you remember correctly but CoH2 in June 2013 had super boring/non existent weapon profiles on infantry , meanwhile the vehicle weapon profiles were crazy but in a bad way. As in a SU-85 losing 90% HP vs one Elefant or Tiger shot or t-34 getting one-shot by these tanks but also being able to bounce off their shots.

Ost vs SOV well balanced I remember a very different experience where soviets were as good as unplayable provided the wehr player spammed MG42

E8 didn't come out until June 2014 WFA DLC which is commonly seen as the turning point from bad to good of CoH2. But what we got instead in late 2013 were these outrageous pay2win DLC commanders. The original Tiger Ace has to be in the top 5 most OP DLCs in Gaming History.


And that was all just balance, where CoH3 is in a pretty good state after 3 months in my opinion. CoH2 also had issues such as

- the game performed horrible on the majority of all 2013 PCs with low FPS and crashes
- no battleservers, each game was hosted via P2P system --> horrible input lag in many games to a point where it was unplayable
- small map pool, but same story or even worse in CoH3 now
- the fucking blizzards that stopped all meaningful gameplay for 3min and lowered FPS from 20 to 1

It's not a big job as both game are the same nearly and many asset are compatible. Better to have a bigger game then 2 nearly empty game.

You do realize that both games use completely different engines, right? There is no such possibility like "Copy content from CoH2 and paste it in CoH3". Everything needs to be re-built from scratch

Nothing good ever came out of C&C series in that regard.

Wtf bro have you even played Generals & Zero Hour

The problem for CoH3 is that players apparently decide that the strengths of the game are not worth it. Yes, CoH2 got similar critiques, some rightfully, some as you say because it is new and not what everyone is used to, but the extend seems to be different. All the critique did not stop players from playing, at least not as quickly as for CoH3. Like it or not, but despite a bad release as well, CoH2 had something going for it that CoH3 can't replicate. It might be presentation, sound, whatever.
Having a smoothly running game is great, but doesn't help if the game itself is boring. There's people loving CoH3 in its current form. The overall majority however doesn't, and that's why we see a huge drop in player numbers and the efflux is still not stopped. CoH3 has lost players compared to last week, probably another 200 on average (just estimating), which comes down to ~10% of the player base.
Relic partially focused on the casual gamers, but those will not rebuild the game. They either had their fun or didn't, but moved on either way. They're not going to buy a game with 40-55% positive reviews on Steam. Relic has to rebuild it from their main, die hard audience. Which is not what they have been aiming for, and worries me if CoH3 will get the support that it needs to make it a good game.

You're just making bold claims here as to why people stop playing CoH3, that the game is not good fundamentally or targeted the wrong audience etc etc.

Nearly every single person I have spoken to and myself included stopped playing CoH3 because the map-pool is horrible and I mean HORRIBLE in 3v3 and esp. the most popular mode 4v4. Imagine you play CoH2 4v4 but only on Hamburg and Lorch Assault all day every day, even the most diehard CoH fan can endure this only for so long.

It's that and axis queue times that kill the MP experience currently. It sucks but both issues can be fixed with ease down the line

At this point in my forum life, I think I can pretty safely say that I fit into the "lowest common denominator" group of CoH players. In my experience, my friends and I would probably come back if the MP experience wasn't so dry by thia point.

For fucks sake, I can't say it enough; there are only TWO 4v4 maps... and they're only adding ONE map in the near future.

Yeah imagine you play CoH2 4v4 but you only get Lorch Assault and Port of Hamburg all day Even the biggest CoH fanboy can endure this for so long only