in a realistic scenario, there would be 2 raketens in the backline, 4 squads of infantry and a king tiger being right beside the ST
The ST is not at the backline if he is shooting |
not supposed to be a realistic scenario, simply proves that the ST can tank even more than 2 AT guns and walk away
BS. In a realistic scenario, the su85 and 1 AT gun would have killed the ST when its on the retreat. So thank you for proving my point. |
Never heard of arty shotgunning.
Also, have you ever fought against a sturmtiger? something tells me you haven't
I love arty shotgunning especially with the calliope . But shotgunning is a choice the sturmtiger doesnt have that choice.
You risk much more driving frontally into two AT guns with an AVRE than you will EVER do with a sturmtiger, axis have higher penetration AT options anyway, that extra armor wont aid the avre much.
Why are you driving frontally into 2 at guns if you have a turret? |
220 armor is a big deal when you already need 8 shots to take it down. Only TDs have an impact on it which is part of the struggle to counter it. If it had like 150 armor then a couple of mediums tanks would able to counter it.
So yes, its armor is definitely a factor to take into consideration. It doesn't mean reducing it is the solution but reducing it can be part of it.
I can guarantee you that if you charge 2 AT guns that can fire at max range that ST is not coming home. 220 armor is not much for dedicated AT weapons. Also it should not be countered by mediums except for flanking. |
Name another artillery piece that has 1280 health and 220 armor
Dude you are out of your mind. Literally one of the dumbest arguments I've ever seen on this forum
Can you name an arty piece that has 40 range? even with all its armor and hp you still take more risk moving the ST to the frontline then putting a kat or calliope in the back. |
dude, there are things called "axis" arty, like lfh stuka werfer, all very potent and on the level of allied arty. Stop comparing ST to completely different units, this is getting retardet.
Nobody complained about those units, so i dont get the whine.
Thats a big fat fucking lie
Nobody complained because axis arty generally has less range less damage and fewer missiles in every barrage, so its squad wiping potential is limited.
ST still work on the same principal as any other arty so the correct approach is to compare them to other arty pieces. And while the ST is potent the calliope still does a better job |
I think the de-crew mechanic was stupid, but it was a balancing mechanism. Now you can just troll around the map without much of a worry
Is this any different then Allied arty who just use superior range to stay out of trouble? |
Allied arty does not garantee a wipe its about area denail more then wiping. Those allied arties only garantee a wipe if you mass or spam them. That is how powerfull the st is.
This a big fat fucking lie. 90 % of the squad wipes i suffer is through allied arty. Even if there is no squad wipe you can bet it still drains mp.
That you constantly point the finger elsewhere instead of where the problem actualy lies is mind numbing.
WTF? axis players have been dealing with high damage AI AOE units that are defended with at guns for years now. Now that you are on the receiving end of the same strat its suddenly op. and ST didnt receive many buffs. Its still a kitten compared to the ST of old. |
No and i never said that. You made the rather strange claim a medium can kill a st at any time whenever its dicided to attack the st. As if the okw or supporting ost player dont have dual atguns or panthers/stugs supporting the ST after it one shot wipped something and returns to its own at wall.
You described Allied arty. But its completely ok when the allies do it? |
are you seriously comparing sturmtiger to katiusha or calli?, madness
no point arguing with you then
EDIT: good luck not getting "hit" by it, when you know you actually have to cap points (mostly VPS) and he can fire over shot blockers and from FOW. and has as much HP that it cannot be dived (in comparison to kata or calli LOL)
Congratulations you just described the problem that axis players have faced when dealing with kat´s and calliopes. do you not think i have my finger on the retreat button when capping? one missed audio sound and you likely will lose a squad. |
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