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Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2015, 15:46 PMEsxile

1. BAR are good since last summer. M1919 are better in open maps still
2. USF Grenades are a two edge sword, and slower than Volks flamnade so unless your opponent is sleepy, don't use them too much
3. AA is still good vs any infantry. Just don't use it alone with no support.
4. Stuart second ability is an engine damage shot, but it is a skill shot.

-M20 is far from useless, just keep it at distance.
-AA is still good vs any infantry. Just don't use it alone without spotter/support.
-Jackson is glasscannon, nothing new here.
-Yes USF is weaker than OKW or you can say OKW is by far the strongest faction at the moment. let them have their momentum until the Relic hammer nerf it to the ground.

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2015, 08:26 AMgarmeth06

The statistics have shown that it is difficult past emotional, contrived, anecdotal evidence.

Also I don't have problems with volks "blobs" I have problems with good players using many volks.

Several things need to be considered and looked at in a lens more broad than rifle vs volks combat. Yes, in a straight up 1v1, or blob vs blob, bar/m1919 rifles at max vet or no vet will destroy a blob of volks. This is simply fact. There are, however, other factors that exist that determine the success of the faction and mold the dynamic between rifles and volks.

1. Volks gain veterancy faster than rifles and have lower veterancy requirements per level of vet. Because they have the shreck upgrades, volks farm damage off of vehicles and level up vet at an alarming rate. Volks need 2400 exp to reach vet 4 and rifles need 2576 to reach vet 3.

This means that it is not uncommon and, perhaps, likely that several volks will reach vet 4 before rifles can reach vet 3. This means that a lot of combat occurs between vet 4 volks and vet 2 rifles.

Stat comparison at those vet levels
Volks
vet 1 - -10% received accuracy
Vet 2 - 30% accuracy, -20% weapon cooldown
vet 3 - Passive healing, -10% received accuracy
vet 4 - 20% sight range, 15% accuracy

Aggregate : -20% received accuracy, 45% accuracy, passive healing, -20% weapon cooldown, 20% sight range

Rifles
vet 1 - Anti tank rifle grenade
vet 2 - -23% received accuracy, -20% weapon cooldown

Aggregate : Anti tank rifle grenade, -23% received accuracy, -20% weapon cooldown

In addition to volks having an obvious edge at this point in the battle pound for pound vs rifles, one needs to realize that long range efficacy significantly outperforms close range combat ability.

The close range dominance of rifles and concscripts become increasingly less valuable the longer a game lasts. Running into close range vs a squad of axis infantry in the early game is a useful, and efficient tactic, however, when both sides have multiple infantry, mgs, mines, vehicles that don't want to overextend or fire on the move ( and thus prefer to remain stationary to avoid AT guns / movement dps penalty), long range static fighting becomes the norm in the late game. In addition, cover is ruined by explosions so most running must occur on open field.

Whenever multiple units must run to maximise their dps in close range vs another plethora of units, the stationary ones will always win because they focus fire a running squad down that has incurred both acccuracy and cooldown penalties on the move and is experiencing little to no cover.

This means that in a late game scenario, long range, static fighting is what most fighting infantry v infantry endure. This is part of the reason why the airborne commander that captain price loves is effective, it offers two alternatives to bad close range allied infantry in the pathfinder and the LMG paratrooper who is basically a little bit worst than obersoldaten, but come earlier and are more flexible as a trade off.

One can see now that volks are more than capable of dealing with rifles in a realistic game scenario, the 45% accuracy buff vs the no accuracy buff is substantial. In terms of pure infantry to infantry combat, volks also become superior to rifles at vet 1 as they get recieved accuracy modifier vs an AT nade.

All of this comes with the fact that volks are cheaper to make and to reinforce and for early game the OKW has stronger units and better capping.

2. You said mgs counter volks, however, OKW gets faster mg than us forces through doctrinal call-in and also is very cheap on the manpower.

The difference between volks and rifles,however, is that rifles want to run in and flank to get higher close range dps compared to volks which exposes them vs mgs. Volks want to fight at range behind cover making them fundamentally less exposed to mgs all while the axis mg is easier to obtain and maintain.

3. USF has to deal with a lot of random manpower bleed from unwanted units, lieutenant, captain, and major are all situationally useless and cost 100s of manpower over a course of a battle. Note I am not claiming that these units are useless, just that they can be useless compared to volks which always have a use on the field.

4. I don't "dive" in to the OKW randomly praying he has no shrecks, the fact that he is guaranteed to have multiple shrecks makes my vehicles vulnerable to the basic OKW infantry for the entire game allowing for less harrassment room and overall less use. Compare this to the luchs which can commonly get 25+ kills even vs top 10 players because on large maps it can often roam freely and harass squads without losing literally 1/2 its health from max range.



I'm a 1v1 player

Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2015, 23:31 PMCanaris

For anyone interested, got a much better clip of the strategy in action last night, this time in a 2v2.
http://www.twitch.tv/canarisfc/v/29440620

Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2015, 06:46 AMNEVEC

It's not difficult to kill with m20. This thing causes much less troubles than kubel with supression. Unlike new superdupervolksgrenadiersubersoldiers.