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I am using the modifier to calculate vision.

That didn't answer my question if it is determined from the centre of the vehicle/tank which would lead to less real sight if the vehicle/tank is bigger. Valentine is for example bigger than M20 or T70.

The combination of focus sight and trucking give vision above 70 (if I remember correctly)

Yeah, so it would be a good thing to make SU-85 pay for activation similar to the ability of the USF 57mm-AT-Gun which has to pay for it Vet1 ability too.

I keep hearing about those "uncounterable flares." but there are a number of abilities that are also "uncounterable":

Single pass planes now available in 3 factions as stock
Reckon plane from "Assault"
Flares from mortar cover
Flares from Croc

The flares from Ro Arty and Special Op need tweaks but they are hardy the only offenders and they do not need to be removed.

Imo single pass planes are not a problem, because they give you only a very short time period for your vision and you pay about 50-60 munition for that. A circling plane gives you a short initial sight in most cases too plus additional vision if it doesn't get shoot down.

Off-map Flares should all be removed and exchanged with planes.

Since CoH2 is all about having the right intel at the right time, the game is all about knowing where the units of your opponent are to position/move your units in the right way. This is pretty much realistic because it was the same in reality. Intel is the key to victory in every battle.

There are three main ways to get direct sight
1. planes (Commander / nondoc officers) -> medium munition cost / short-medium timed / counterable with AA
2. recon units -> get better with vet / constant
3. unit flares -> low munition cost / long timed
(commander flares will be probably and rightfully patched out of the game as it seems, so I won’t include them)

Since vision is so important in this game I don’t understand the huge difference between factions. Especially at recon units. While I found no allied unit which has more than 55 sight including Vet we have the doctrinal scope and the Infrared HT. Infrared HT gives 75 sight, scoped 222 gives about 70 sight without vet and 90 sight (which is really “overkill”) with vet while not moving. Its already 60 sight for vetted 222 without scope.
The 55 sight seems to be carefully balanced about risk vs reward, you always risk loosing your vetted M20 for example because there are AT units which can snipe you at that distance if your opponent has vision by himself (nondoc: PAK at Ostheer, JPIV at OKW / plus doctrinal ones). So I don’t understand this riskless “overkill” constant sight at axis factions while extra sight at doctrinal Vet3 Greyhound was stripped for example.

Proposal:
- all recon units should be capped at 55 or 60 (222/Puma) sight with vet
- Scopes and Infrared HT should have timed munition costing abilities that give them their sight range bonus (similar to timed sight from unit flares)
- 90 sight for vetted and scoped 222 is overkill, lower a bit even if timed
- Greyhound should get back its sight bonus in form of a Vet 1 munition costing timed ability (as proposed for IR HT and scoped 222) which should disable the weapons too while activated. This is RECON company and it has neither flares nor a vehicle that has better sight as the nondoc M20 (only the Pathfinders which you get without artillery call-in at Airborne too = same sight as M20)


Yeah this seems to be all about nerf axis, and to be honest yeah it is. But you can’t just make such huge differences at the key element of this game. Axis recon vehicles counter allied recon vehicles, since IR HT or 222 (with vet and/or scope) plus PAK or JPIV = dead allied recon vehicle. This isn’t the case in reverse.

The huge sight bonus of recon units wouldn’t get stripped from axis, this would be unfair, because soviet has nondoc mortar flares and UKF/USF get somehow nondoc recon plane in the course of the battle. The difference is, that all recon abilites that give more than 55/60 sight should be activated for a given time and cost some munition. That way recon would be standardized about ranges and cost somehow but still be asymmetric in its form.

Yeah, I do think a lot of the suggestions here are reasonable. A seperate Assault Guards call-in would make sense. Thompson and Bazooka upgrade (maybe with super bazooka elite option) would make a lot of sense on top at this commander.

Alternatively keep the bundle, take a M3 instead and make both units buildable at base once you unlocked the bundled call-in. The M3 with its repair ability would add a lot of value for Soviets which didn't have vehicle crews for repairing. At USF it is way less useful for this reason.

If the fuel drop would be standardized to german supply drop in addition (coming from your base, dropping at munition point), this commander would be really playable again.

The results on the UKF strafing support surpises me, it definitely felt stronger in-game. Gonna test it myself too. I wonder how much damage a single strafe does in comparison (for example when the enemy reacts quickly to get out of sight/range of more strafes).
One thing I'm sure about tho is that it adds a lot to the chaos factor, planes buzzing + rockets flying around while tanks advancing left and right is just pure madness, such attacks usually push back the germans succesfully.

I absolutely agree with you that the ability pushes back the germans with its effects alone but I always thought it would deal a lot more damage. It seems the effects fooled me too. The results of my small test run were disillusioning if you keep in mind that I arranged the best possible framework conditions for the ability to be successful.
On the other hand I didn't expect the two AT-Loiters destroying a single full health Tiger/IS-2 completely. These two abilities performed rather better than expected.