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Thread: Time for Statistics7 Dec 2015, 18:36 PM From a strictly statistical point of view, if one wants, to compare to 2 sets of data (in this case players and games) there must be at least of 1 of 2 things: Either the players must be the same and play the same number of games. (and in this case it is not since player are playing around 4 times mores as OKW) or There should be a large sample of data, and since 150 players are not enough one needs a large number of games...thus more time. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: AI and Kubel spam4 Dec 2015, 13:29 PM Was in 3vs3 and one okw opponent dropped. AI kept spamming Kubels trying to cap. This probably need to be looked at.. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Balance Preview Patchnotes4 Dec 2015, 09:44 AM since the original post link does not work: GENERAL UPDATES New Commanders Oberkommando West – Overwatch Doctrine Goliath Forward Receivers Early Warning For the Fatherland Sector Assault US Forces – Tactical Support Company M1919A6 Light Machine Gun P47 Recon Run M5 Half-Track Transport P47 Strafing Run M4 Sherman Calliope Learn more about these new commanders in our Know Your Commanders blog post. New Intel Bulletins Boom Goes Me! intel bulletin for the Goliath added Champagne or a Super Nova intel bulletin for the Calliope added Misc Updated the pop cap in tool tips to reflect actual pop cap numbers (all factions) Leaderboards Update The Leaderboards are now accessible in-game via the Player Card and Automatch lobby. Your leaderboard level and level icon are now displayed on your Player Card as well. In addition, you can now also check your recent stats on your Player Card for info such as your Recent Match History and W/L ratio per time. Pathfinding Improvement Specifically better pathfinding when moving a unit backwards (better reversing behavior). OBERKOMMANDO WEST UPDATE To learn more about the reasoning and design decisions behind these changes, check out our OKW Revamp blog. General Changes Resource income increased from 66% to 100% Starting Fuel decreased from 40 to 10 Starting Manpower increased from 240 to 340 Tech Tree Changes The buildable units, abilities and costs in the OKW's Headquarter structures have been altered. Command Headquarters Buildable Units Volksgrenadiers Sturmpioneers Kübelwagen Raktenwerfer 43 Anti-Tank Rocket Launcher sWS Supply Half-Track Battlegroup Headquarters Fuel cost decreased from 40 to 25 Self-Destruct ability removed Buildable Units 7.5cm le.IG 18 Infantry Support Gun SdKfz 251/20 Half-Track w/ Infrared Searchlight SdKfz 251/17 Flak Half-Track Mechanized Regiment Headquarters Fuel cost increased from 40 to 50 Munitions Transfer ability removed Fuel Transfer ability removed Self-Destruct ability removed Buildable Units: Panzer II Ausf. L “Luchs” Light Tank SdKfz 234 “Puma” Heavy Armored Car SdKfz 251 “Stuka zu Fuß” Half-Track Schwerer Panzer Headquarters Fuel cost increased from 80 to 105 Self-Destruct ability removed Buildable Units: Obersoldaten Jagdpanzer IV/70 (V) Panzer IV Ausf. J Medium Tank Panther PzKpfw V Medium Tank Commander Changes Feuersturm Doctrine Flammenwerfer 35 Command Point requirement decreased from 1 to 0 Unit Changes Volksgrenadiers Manpower cost increased from 235 to 250 Kark 98k Rifle Damage increased from 10 to 12 Veterancy Rank 4 Squad Sight Radius buff decreased from 1.4 to 1.2 Veterancy Rank 4 Weapon Accuracy buff decreased from 1.3 to 1.15 Veterancy Rank 5 Weapon Cooldown buff increased from 0.7 to 0.8 Sturmpioneers Manpower cost decreased from 320 to 300 Flame Explode critical removed Fallschirmjäger Veterancy Rank 4 Weapon Accuracy buff decrease from 1.3 to 1.15 Veterancy Rank 5 Weapon Accuracy buff decrease from 1.3 to 1.15 Jäger Light Infantry Veterancy Rank 4 Weapon Range buff decreased from 5 to 2.5 Veterancy Rank 5 Weapon Cooldown buff increased from 0.75 to 0.8 Veterancy Rank 5 Squad Received Accuracy buff increased from 0.71 to 0.8 Obersoldaten Veterancy Rank 4 Squad Received Accuracy buff increased from 0.71 to 0.8 MG34 Heavy Machine Gun Team Veterancy Rank 4 Squad Received Accuracy buff increased from 0.71 to 0.8 Veterancy Rank 5 Weapon Accuracy buff decreased from 1.2 to 1.15 Veterancy Rank 5 Squad Sight Radius buff decreased from 11 to 6 Raktenwerfer 43 Anti-Tank Rocket Launcher Veterancy Rank 4 Squad Movement buff decreased from 1.25 to 1.15 Veterancy Rank 4 Weapon Range buff decreased from 10 to 5 Veterancy Rank 5 Squad Sight Radius buff decreased from 16 to 12 7.5cm le.IG 18 Infantry Support Gun Suppression removed Can now autoface Veterancy Rank 5 Weapon Penetration buff decreased from 1.3 to 1.15 Veterancy Rank 5 Weapon Damage buff decreased from 1.5 to 1.15 Garrison cover damage multiplier increased from 0.25 to 0.35 Kübelwagen Capture added (15% faster capture rate) Suppression removed Range decreased from 40 to 35 Manpower & Fuel cost decreased from 240/5 to 210/0 Armor increased from 4 to 4.5 Rear armor increased from 2 to 4.5 sWS Supply Half-Track Manpower & Fuel cost increased from 0/0 to 100/15 SdKfz 251/17 Flak Half-Track Veterancy Rank 4 Weapon Penetration buff decreased from 1.25 to 1.15 Veterancy Rank 5 Squad Movement buff decreased from 1.3 to 1.15 Veterancy Rank 5 Squad Rotation buff decreased from 1.3 to 1.15 Panzer II Ausf. L “Luchs” Light Tank Fuel cost increased from 50 to 65 Penetration reduced from 25 to 20 Flammpanzer 38 “Hetzer” Veterancy Rank 1 requirements decreased from 2730 to 1560 Veterancy Rank 2 requirements decreased from 5460 to 3120 Veterancy Rank 3 requirements decreased from 10920 to 6240 Veterancy Rank 4 requirements decreased from 13650 to 7800 Veterancy Rank 4 Weapon Range buff decreased from 8 to 5 Veterancy Rank 5 requirements decreased from 18155 to 10375 Flakpanzer IV Ostwind Veterancy Rank 4 Weapon Damage buff decreased from 1.25 to 1.15 Veterancy Rank 5 Weapon Range buff decreased from 1.25 to 1.15 Jagdpanzer IV/70 (V) Veterancy Rank 4 Weapon Reload buff increased from 0.75 to 0.85 Veterancy Rank 4 Weapon Accuracy buff decreased from 1.3 to 1.15 Panzer IV Ausf. J Medium Tank Veterancy Rank 4 Weapon Scatter buff increased from 0.75 to 0.8 Veterancy Rank 5 Weapon Accuracy buff decreased from 1.5382 to 1.25 Panther PzKpfw V Medium Tank Veterancy Rank 5 Squad Sight Radius buff decreased from 16 to 11 Veterancy Rank 5 Weapon Accuracy buff decreased from 1.5382 to 1.25 Tiger B “Königstiger” Now unlockable call in unit Limited to 1 Population cost decreased from 26 to 21 Veterancy Rank 5 Weapon Reload buff increased from 0.7 to 0.8 Panzershrecks Reduce infantry sniping. Added infantry target table modifier of 0.5 MULTIPLAYER UPDATES Commander Changes Elite Troops Doctrine Removing the Elite Troops ability from the commander tree as it interferes with the general pacing of unit veterancy. Elite Troops ability replaced with Stormtroopers call-in Close Air Support Doctrine & Osttruppen Doctrine Removing the Redistribute ability that allows players to manipulate their resource with no counter play involved. Redistribute Resources ability replaced with Supply Drop Zone ability Ability Changes Stuka Close Air Support Ease of life change. Only targets vehicles now Sight decreased to 0 Mini map icon added Can no longer be targeted in base sectors Strafing Run Ease of life change. Sight decreased to 0 Mini map icon added Can no longer be targeted in base sectors Osttruppen Reserves Removing the veterancy bonus from the ability as it interfere with the general pacing of unit veterancy. No longer provides a random chance to receive veterancy on spawn Jaeger Light Infantry Upgrade Allowing players to get this upgrade relatively at the same time as the LMG42. Command point requirement decreased from 3 to 1 US Forces Commander Changes Rifle Company We made some adjustments to Rifle Company to address the ongoing issue of mainline infantry having such a strong anti-garrison weapon. Another thing we wanted to address was the ability to break the intended pacing of veterancy. M2 Flamethrower upgrade moved from Riflemen to Rear Echelon Troops M2 Flamethrower Command Point requirement decreased from 1 to 0 Elite Rifleman call-in replaced with Fire Up! ability Fire Up! - Squad will move at maximum speed for a period of time, then after will suffer from exhaustion for a period of time Ability Changes P-47 Rocket Strafe Ease of life change. Sight decreased to 0 Mini map icon added Can no longer be targeted in base sectors Unit Changes Rear Echelon Troops We have scaled up Rear Echelon Troops slightly to reduce spam. Manpower cost increased from 160 to 200 M1 Carbine Rifle Damage increased from 8 to 10 Rifleman Increased the requirement on rifleman veterancy to reflect their new current performance at veterancy level 3. Veterancy Rank 3 requirements increased from 2240 to 2576 M1 75mm Pack Howitzer Suppression removed Can now autoface Garrison cover damage multiplier increased from 0.25 to 0.35 M10 “Wolverine” Tank Destroyer Slight cost increase to reflect the unit’s performance. Manpower & Fuel cost increased from 270/80 to 300/90 Bazooka Usability improvement change. Reduce infantry sniping. Weapon Accuracy increased from 0.029(F)/0.043(M)/0.058(N) to 0.034(F)/0.048(M)/0.063(N) Added infantry target table modifier of 0.5 UK Forces Structure Changes Field Headquarters Bolster Infantry Squads Manpower & Fuel cost increased from 100/25 to 150/35 Emplacements Can no longer be abandoned Ability Changes Strafing Support Ease of life change. Rockets now can only target vehicles Strafing runs can only target infantry Sight decreased to 0 Mini map icon added Can no longer be targeted in base sectors Unit Changes Infantry Section Slight adjustment to Infantry section making them slightly better at fighting out of cover but slightly decreased performance in cover. Also adding the PTRS profile to the Boys AT Rifle to not make it a DPS downgrade against infantry. Lee Enfield Rifle Reload penalty decreased from 1.5 to 1.4 Lee Enfield Rifle Cooldown penalty decreased from 1.3 to 1.2 Lee Enfield Rifle Target Size increased from 0.8 to 0.9 Veterancy Rank 2 Received Accuracy buff increased from 0.66 to 0.76 Veterancy Rank 3 Weapon Accuracy buff decreased from 1.4 to 1.2 Tank Hunter Infantry Section Boys AT Rifle Accuracy increased from 0.035(F)/0.048(M)/0.063(N) to 0.253(F)/0.575(M)/0.69(N) Boys AT Rifle Damage decreased from 40 to 27 Boys AT Rifle Bonus Damage vs. Vehicles increased to 13 Veterancy Rank 2 Received Accuracy buff increased from 0.66 to 0.76 Veterancy Rank 3 Weapon Accuracy buff decreased from 1.4 to 1.2 Royal Engineers Adding appropriate cost and research time to this ability. Heavy Engineers Upgrade Munitions cost increased from 0 to 70 Heavy Engineers Upgrade Research Time increased from 10 to 30 seconds .55 cal Armor-Piercing Sniper We are adjusting the British Sniper’s veterancy ability and weapon to allow more counter play with light recon vehicles. Coordinated Fire ability requirements removed Critical Shot ability Veterancy Rank 1 requirements added Chance to damage engine on penetration removed Churchill Mk. VII Infantry Tank Increasing its cost to reflect the unit’s performance. Fuel cost increased from 150 to 180 Churchill Crocodile Brining experience in line. Flamethrower Range decreased from 32 to 25 Command point requirement increased from 12 to 13 Manpower cost decreased from 700 to 640 Fuel cost increased from 180 to 230 Veterancy Rank 1 requirements increased from 2020 to 2525 Veterancy Rank 2 requirements increased from 4040 to 5050 Veterancy Rank 3 requirements increased from 8080 to 10100 Ordnance QF 6-Pounder Anti-Tank Gun Cost alignment with its performance. Manpower cost increased from 280 to 320 Valentine Mk. XI Tank Reducing Command Point requirement to bring the pacing in line with other light tanks. Command Points requirement decreased from 8 to 6 Soviet Commander Changes Soviet Industry Tactics Removing the Soviet Industry ability that allows players to manipulate their resource with no counter play involved. Soviet Industry ability replaced with Allied Supply Drop ability Ability Changes IL-2 Sturmovik Attacks (Loiter) Ease of life changes. Mini map icon added Can only target infantry Can no longer be targeted in base sectors Unit Changes KV-2 Heavy Assault Tank Bringing this unit in line with other heavy vehicles. Population cost decreased from 24 to 19 Health increased from 800 to 1040 MAP UPDATES Sturdorf Minor balance Improvements from community creator Tac-map art added Achelous River Tac-map art added Minsk Pocket Minor balance improvements Tac-map art updated Road to Kharkov Major balance improvements Tac-map art updated Faymonville Approach Minor balance improvements Tac-map art updated BUG FIXES General "Remove" Text in Polish is now present when right-clicking on an intel bulletin in the inventory screen Fixed a crash that would occur when using the Request Artillery Barrage ability in a saved game from the Elsenborn Ridge - Ardennes Assault campaign mission Rounded off all infantry population cost Oberkommando West Sturmpioneer Squad’s backpack is now replaced when a flamethrower is equipped Volksgrenadier’s can no longer skip the Panzerschreks reload time by building sandbags Fallschirmjäger’s FG42 Rifle reload animation now appears correctly SdKfz 251 “Stuka zu Fuß” Half-Track’s vet 3 Weapon Range buff now properly increases with the UI SdKfz 251/17 Flak Half-Track can no longer receive engine criticals from small arms Flammpanzer 38 “Hetzer” side deflect VFX has been added Flammpanzer 38 “Hetzer”’ now uses the proper medium tank mini map icon Flammpanzer 38 “Hetzer” decals now appear right-side up Jagdpanzer IV side deflect VFX has been added Sturmtiger’s vet 3 Weapon Reload buff now properly takes affect Wehrmacht Festung Armor Doctrine, the Pak 43 Emplacememt and the Command Tank call-in now appear in the correct order on the command bar Jaeger Armor Doctrine, the Stuka Bombing Strike ability and the Elefant Tank Destroyer call-in now appear in the correct order on the command bar German Mechanized Doctrine, the leFH 18 Artillery emplacement and the Command Tank now appear in the correct order on the command bar Supply Drop Zone ability now has proper SFX when the planes fly overtop Soviet Guard Rifle Infantry will no longer move to cover when given an attack move order Guard Rifle Infantry will now display the PPSh-41 Submachine Gun indicator when equipped with one M4C Sherman’s Hull MG and Co-axle MG VFX have been added KV-2 Heavy Assault Tank hatch now properly closes when it’s Firing Position Mode is active Partisan Tactics, the Spy Network ability and the Partisan Tank Hunters call-in now appear in the correct order on the command bar IL2-2 Sturmovik Attacks ability will no longer target infantry casualty US Forces Infantry units that recrew a Raktenwerfer 43 Anti-Tank Rocket Launcher now cloak when using the Camouflage ability Lieutenant will no longer move to cover when given an attack move order Captain will no longer move to cover when given an attack move order Major will no longer move to cover when given an attack move order The M3 Grease Gun and Thompson SMG have proper reload animations M4A3E8 Sherman “Easy Eight” wrecked texture now appears correctly M26 Pershing Heavy Tank call-in now works when your pop-cap is 84 UK Forces Fixed an issue where shots from the Comet, Firefly, or 17 Pounder would fail to damage enemy vehicles The BAR Rifle now has a proper reload animation when held by Infantry Sections Air Landing Officer will no longer move to cover when given an attack move order The Sten SMG now has VFX when firing QF 17-Pounder Anti-Tank Gun Emplacement’s reload animation now matches it’s reload time The Hold the Line ability now plays the proper speech In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The HMG-34 veterancy nerfs...2 Dec 2015, 17:53 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2015, 17:44 PM__deleted__ stuff Read original post. My suggestion bring XP value inline with Cost and DPS. The rest is irrelevant. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The HMG-34 veterancy nerfs...2 Dec 2015, 17:33 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2015, 16:22 PMImagelessbean The MG34 suffers from two problems: It comes at 1 CP to limit spam (so it starts as the worst mg and fights already vet infantry), it is rare (it comes in basically one doc). It comes to 2 doctrines luft and defense... Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2015, 16:22 PMImagelessbean It would be fine with slightly reduced vet requirements if it could be included in the standard tech tree. Otherwise I see no reason to buff one of the most spammable MGs in the game when it can be backed up by the longest range mortar (ISG) easily. Being doctrinal or stock makes not difference in its XP value. I don't really see how making a stock units would justify a reduction in XP value. Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2015, 16:48 PMImagelessbean Myself, you failed to respond to any of the points I laid out. Cafo is right, and you are effectively preventing discussion by saying no to anyone who disagrees with you. MG34's can boost their damage (double it in fact) for 15? munitions as soon as they hit vet 1. Use this. Buffing the 34 right now is very risky because it could just become a giant wall of MG spam in every game. Yes it can boost its damage but even then its damage is lower than HMG42 it far DPS would still be around 2 times less... Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2015, 17:16 PM__deleted__ ... Like really guys OKW got like 10 buffs and 1 nerf in terms of vet 4,5 whitch you dont see in 70% of competitive matchs either. Please wait few days , play patch , try to counter strong think , think about unit if it really needs a buff. .... Individual units buff or nerfs should not be confused with faction performance. OKW might over-perform after the patch but that is completely irrelevant with HMG34 performance. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The HMG-34 veterancy nerfs...2 Dec 2015, 16:42 PM Cafo pls stop trolling... and insulting others In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The HMG-34 veterancy nerfs...2 Dec 2015, 16:36 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2015, 16:33 PMCafo How is that not relevant, it costs 210mp for an mg why would it vet quickly that would be retarded. For the last time cost and Xp value are not the same. And even if the HMG34 was inline with other HMG34 in XP value (and it is not) its extremely low DPS would prevent from getting any kills and vetting. Pls stop posting if you have nothing to add. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The HMG-34 veterancy nerfs...2 Dec 2015, 16:31 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2015, 16:25 PMCafo I didn't mention that because its doctrinal I mentioned it because its cheap and you don't have to wait for its production. Maxim, HMG42 and Vickers all hit the field earlier than HMG34 and production time is irrelevant to veterancy bonuses. If you have something relevant to post pls do so else... Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2015, 16:22 PMKatitof So why do you care in the first place? Because it is change in the wrong direction. Something broken is changed into something more broken. I guess for the same reason I would post a thread if Pennal battalion got DPS nerf.... And I do not have any issue with the nerfs themselves...read original post and suggestions. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The HMG-34 veterancy nerfs...2 Dec 2015, 16:23 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2015, 16:19 PMCafo You think the cost of the unit isn't factored into these things? Do you think? I could continue if it is "virtually impossible" to get that vet why do you care if those vets are nerfed? Yes it is and the units has to much XP value taking into account its cost...read original post. And being doctrinal again is irrelevant to vet bonuses... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The HMG-34 veterancy nerfs...2 Dec 2015, 16:14 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2015, 16:03 PMCafo This nerf I feel is actually good, firstly it's the cheapest MG in the game and it's a call in. Nuff said. What does cost have to do with veterancy bonuses that will never be reached and my suggestion of lowering XP value? Seriously have you actually ready the post? In: COH2 Balance