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you mean like the 17pounder got a time -pak43-modus? as nondoc unit?

why brit players made it easy and switche factions?

or why usf got t0 mortar?

any heard from balance? ISU can handle both targets types easily...while is cheaper and has same range. is more mobile and is not useless when enemy park armor until he has enough to overrun you

If you goal was to prove how little you know about the ISU and how it works, you've succeeded brilliantly. I use both the ISU and JT regularly. The ISU's rate of fire makes it bad against Panthers, Tigers, etc. It isn't a good TD, certainly not as good as getting 2 SU-85's. It needs a larger support army than a JT because it dies easily if someone can dive even a P4 in behind it. I can't remember the last time I lost a JT. I've lost a couple ISU's in the last week when people were able to strip away enough of its support using arty and/or skill planes.

I'm not excited about the change to the JT but will play it before saying anything about it.

Why is there a need to nerf it?

There is really no reason why it needs to be nerfed at all!

DPS of Centaur and Ostwind are the same.

The Centaur is slow enough that it can't chase retreating units. The Ostwind doesn't have a problem chasing and wiping retreating units. It doesn't usually happen in 4v4's due to having more AT around, but I've had it happen to me in 2v2's. I'm not sure what I'd do with it if I was on the balance team. It's overall performance seems okay for the price. Maybe give it a small increase in stationary accuracy and a decrease in moving accuracy.

This will likely be the last mod preview for this patch. The mod preview feedback has been useful, and we feel the update is in a Good Spot™. There will be some minor adjustments prior to the official release.

We will be monitoring some of the more nuanced changes in this patch post-release. We feel certain items will be easier to assess once the update has been live, and more players are testing the changes. Problem items will be addressed in a follow-up patch.

We are planning to release the update in approximately two weeks time.

So this or next week.

There are a couple of units that weren't touched on this mod that were over-nerfed due to being OP in the past, the Soviet 120mm mortar and the Greyhound. Rather than changing the combat stats on these, would the balance team look at just setting the price, pop cap, and possibly timing to fit their current performance? I realize its late in the cycle but the changes to price/pop cap wouldn't affect balance.

For example, the 120mm now does the same damage as any of the 81/82mm mortars, slightly bigger AOE but significantly slower rate of fire. It would probably be worth using if the price and pop cap were the same as the LEIG (270/7). It still fires slower than the LEIG but the AOE is better so seems like they should be priced about the same.

On the Greyhound, the CP requirement makes it come out well after all of the counters to it are available. The fuel price seems a little high also. Timing wise, it seems like it should be Cpt or LT dispatched and start on a 2 minute cooldown. I use them sometimes around other armor for vision (like a 222) but they need vet to be helpful and that can be difficult when they arrive late.

Once i can i'll test but it's even less dmg than that. 0.5 dmg reduction. So, atm, it's just 10 per hit on the building.

Moving it to 15 and making it double, you would still need 3 volleys to hit. But remind yourself, that you don't know if a mortar is hitting you or not and since barrage fire faster, you are probably gonna react after the 2nd volley is already hitting or in the air.
Thats only if you are not actually aiming correctly at all as well.

Since so many here think this is a good idea and you're going to test it, please test it in a way that would simulate a real 4v4 test. Use Port of Hamburg for your test. The game usually starts with 2 players from each team fighting over each fuel. If you are facing double Ost, there will be a minimum of 2 mortars, but often 3 since a couple of MG42's can lock down all the approaches.

Put a squad of riflemen on the south side of the wall by the south fuel in green cover. Test first with 2 mortars barraging it. Then repeat the test with three mortars firing at the same squad. How long does the squad last? Repeat the test with barrages on both the 50cal and the 57mm.

I'm pretty sure this would make most of the maps in the 4v4 rotation unplayable as allies. The people jumping on this bandwagon also want tanks excluded because they don't want to face the increased modifier with from a HE Sherman.

Hi all I know I throw this idea out now and again but with a new patch shaking up this and that I'd like to resubmit it for discussion

The idea: cons cost little and bring little more than capping power
You pay for additional bits and bobs to make them more what you need, at an additional cost. Not too unlike the PE of cohf

As always, the primary goal is discussion. Nothing here is set in stone, I'd like to hear what yall have to say

The basic template:
200mp
6 men, 4 rifles
Sandbags
Merge

Oorah becomes vet 1
...

I don't think this would work well because of how Cons perform across the different game modes. Having 200 mp cons would be too cheap in 1v1's. Players with good micro would cover the map with them. Also, making Oorah vet 1 would make it much harder for Cons to get to vet 1, at least in larger team games. Right now, you can use it sometimes to get outside the arc of MG's and not get suppressed. Not having it on maps like Crossing or Red Ball means that cons will spend even more time getting suppressed and retreating.

Moving some of their Vet 3 RA bonus to vet 1 would help. They bleed a lot of manpower before vet 3. Usually grens are starting to get their LMG's by that time so it wouldn't upset balance too much.

Decreasing the side-tech costs a little more would help also, and not significantly affect balance.

Lastly, most squads like Grens, PF's, etc, can still pick up a weapon after they do their upgrade. It would be helpful if a 7-man con squad could still pick up a weapon (while still making Mobilize and doctrinal weapon upgrades mutually exclusive).