Wehr and Ober Panthers sould have the same stats. Or like Heini said, they should be differentiated with an "Ausf. X, Y"(which would imply more differences than the subtle ones that actually exist between the two).
That and a rework of Wehr tiering costs should bring the tank to its design role, a lategame tank hunter. Wehr Panther lacks accuracy, which, when coupled with it's poor RoF, is truly a pain. I don't think it needs more, but if a health or armor or damage buff is included in the whole package, then why not.
I think model Ausf G is slithy different than current model in game. |
No they didint really have alot of elite troops at all. German quality of troops was best in 1941, then got worse and worse starting from 1942, this is nothing unusual, they simply died fighting. The soviets do have a shortage of artillery, for example, look at oberkommando, they have all kinds of off map arty strikes, scavenge doctrine, breakthruogh doctrine, and these are pretty much the best off map strikes in the game, this is something that should belong to the soviets, not the OKW. And what do the soviet have? ML-20, B4 (which is horrible), and incendiarty, no real off map barrage. And by 1944, most planes were BF 109s, meant to fight allied bombers and ground attack aircraft and of course enemy fighters, the attacking capabilities of the luftwaffe, in 1944, needless to say, were completely worn out.
It's interesting how COH 1 from a historical perspective made alot of sense. Allied airpower (airborne doc) was very well reflected in the game. Allied artillery superiority (howitzer, off map artillery and calliope was also reflected in the game.
Wehrmachts heavy usaage of MG 42 was suprisingly, also reflected in the game (mg 42 was amazing)
and generally even the small things, like volksgrenadiers havigna higher allocation of automatic weaponry was also reflected in the game (squad leader had mp 44, it acted like a k98, but it was added a nice touch)
Panzer elite AKA Panzer lehr division, which had all of it's battalions equipped with halftracks (where most mechanized divisions only had 1 battalion and rest trucks) was reflected in the game with panzer lehr having a crap ton of halftracks and other light vehicles.
The brits, well the brits did not make too much of sense, but atleast they made more sense than the soviets, because the soviets in this game are completely out of place in historical terms.
It's probaly because relic overdid the whole stereotypical and cliched portrayal of the red army WHERE IN SOVIET RUSSIA WE JUST CHARGE ENDLESSLY INTO GERMAN MACHINE GUNS BECAUSE WE STUPID AND WE ALSO FIGHT WITH STICKS HAR HAR.
Oh, and it's also interesting how there is smoke canisters modeled on the t-34, yet the german tanks which don't have them, are the ones who get them in-game, it's very clear why they did this.
And it's also very interesting how OKW is supposed to be elite faction, okay , lets say these veterans came back from the dead or that OKW is some panzer lehr division or something, however , they do not have a single halftrack. The very HALLMARK of an elite force.
What did you expect from Relic? Some serious historical research and on some level historical based design? Well, that will never happen, just check some names of units (obersoldaten). |
Vetlolcake's back everybody. Prepare your popcorn.
Why are you commenting if you have nothing usefull to say? |
I confess that I haven't played lots of 2v2 lately so I haven't seen the new Katyusha but in the last patch both katyusha and pzwerfer were worth nothing even in numbers so its good they got buffed, and btw after reading what you guys said in this thread I have a conclusion that the katy is perfectly fine now even though you are all complaining.
If you didnt play lots of 2vs2 and didnt see what 2 katyushas can do maybe dont coment on it becasue clearly you have no idea how OP it is. |
Anything else you want to give allied nations an advantage of. Or is there more to come. Because atm its ridiculous. /sarcasm
Look at the win rate %s of top players. Atm soviets and US dominating and you continue to do nothing to help axis. LOL
To me it seems like "we didnt think about it but when designed this feature but prettend its okay" |
THe funny thing is no one complained about Katyusha and they buffed it into a nuclear bomb with MIRV capability.
But again nothing new with Relic. Buffing allies and nerfing axis
Its nothing new. Sometimes I feel that after each patch they fix one thing but broke another two. Instead of small balance changes they double damage on it. Maybe someone at Relic miss a lot of math class when was young??  |
You are completely wrong in all you assumptions.
Easy8 is millions of times better than panther.
easy8 is way too cheap for how good it is.
easy8 comes out at too early cp.
those are the facts if you fail to see it then you are blind.
Good points. E8 is maybe best tank in this moment in game. Good price and great performance against tanks and infantry. Also decent speed. |
I have been a long time supporter of allowing the panther to have a smaller moving accuracy penalty to help better distinguish it from the Tiger.
And at 50 range and moving the IS-2 has a zero percent chance of shooting at the panther, multiply that by the zero chance of hitting and an IS-2 would have to chase for infinity minutes (!!) to kill the panther.
It's a joke point, yes, but still. Even without the moving accuracy, the panther is a fantastic tank sniper. Really shines when attacking a point- you can stop to shoot, pull back when an enemy tries to return fire and pause for your next shot. If they chase too far, faust and finish the job.
Seriously, though. Panther are amazing even as they are so long as you use them against mediums with some care and attention.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46424117/Panther1.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46424117/Panther2.jpg
Dem panthers, bro.
Panthers are not amazing but medicore at best. 50 range will not help you since you need to have some scouts which IS-2 will kill with no problems. For a very long time Panther is very weak tank for its price. |
We've had homing fausts and AT nades for months and nobody has really complained.
Thats not true at all.
I also think that homing nades are not best solution same goes for ~100% damage engine. |
this thing is so broken, i havent played in a while but seems like everyone in team games is just spamming them, one broken unit after another, well done relic well done
Sadly but you are right. |
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