Profile of Flyingsmonster

It should be made into a molotov clone. A fast throwing and long range cover denial grenade has no right being in the game especially when you consider that it's closest counterpart the molotov has been shaped for years to NOT be a "win any engagement by negating cover" ability

I don't have any issues with the profile of the grenade itself, and making it a molotov clone is the wrong idea, especially considering it's a 30 munition ability, not 20 like the molotov. That's more of an issue with the Molotov simply being too weak / having too long of an animation.

I'm just saying that a reduction in its throw speed would allow it to be dodged reliably like other grenades are able to be dodged would bring it in line with other mainline infantry grenades.

Am I the only one who feels like the throw animation is way too quick and nearly impossible to dodge? I pay attention, I watch the game closely and look for the animation when in cover vs. Volks, yet every single time it's thrown I find it nearly impossible to get out of range and avoid any damage. Even when you study the actual animations of the basic core infantry units, it's clear as day just how much faster the volks throws their grenades when they are facing the direction they are throwing it. Like you can visibly see just how much quicker the model goes through the animation compared to the longer IS / RM animations, both grenades which are very easy to dodge if you pay attention unlike the volks.

Compared to other grenades that unlock with tech (though technically I wouldn't count the truck as tech since you have to build it regardless), it's throw speed and animation is nearly a half a second faster, especially when you compare it to Brit / USF grenades, and even moreso when you compare it to its counterpart the Molotov which has the longest throw animation in the game and is pretty much useless in comparison to the incendiary grenade volks get.

I'd compare the speed at which incendiary grenades are thrown to the speed that Shock Troopers throw their RG-42.

So does anyone else agree? If you test it out in Cheatcommands, and time the animations of say, Infantry Sections, Riflemen, Volksgrenadiers and Grenadiers and compare the animation times you will see that Volks are easily the fastest throw of them all by a wide margin, and only Shocks are ever so slightly faster, but not by much.

I feel like a slight nerf to the animation speed would bring this grenade back in line with what it should be as an area denial / cover / anti garrison grenade. It shouldn't have the timing of an elite grenade like the Shocks RG-42.

As far as I'm aware the volks grenade hasn't been changed in quite a while, so I'm interested to see what others think here.

I really don't get the hate for raid tactics. I get the commander is muni heavy but it's so versatile. I play mainly team games so I get the economy is alot different but it's only 40mu! Tech for an m20 and you have a cheap, fast capping unit that forces the enemy to mine like a Mofo or cache up. Again, it's only 40 mu!

I don't hate it, it's just hard to justify spending the 40 ammo when there's so many other things in recon support that require ammo; support paradrop, greyhound mg / canister shots, BARs for your I&R pathfinders / riflemen, butterfly bombs, zooks / LMG on the paras etc.

I'll try it out when I have an abundance of ammo though, see how it works with the greyhound. Another issue is I generally avoid the M20 and just get a Greyhound currently, as the M20 is great, as are its mines but I avoid teching Lt. most games and just go Captain for the AT gun and rush out a sherman after my Greyhound. Also, it's hard to justify using it with the Greyhound because I don't want to waste time capping points with something I can constantly be on the offensive with. Also I hate having to dump 70 ammo into M20s armor skirt to make it survivable, it's just more ammo I don't really ever have unless I completely avoid getting BARs.

All of these patches to fix JLI and they still haven't fixed the core issue of the unit; it's insane accuracy and critical hit rate. That is what needed to be addressed. Were they too cheap at 250mp? Yes. Was it fixed? Yes. Did they spawn to quickly? Yes. It was fixed. They also decided to remove infiltration, I get it, but again, doesn't address the real issue that's plaguing this unit. This is why we still haven't seen a reduction in players using overwatch, or using JLI, because despite the nerfs they are still essentially a better pathfinder in every way for 10mp less, only difference is they come out later. They also still cloak instantly over any bump in the terrain and get their accuracy ambush camouflage bonus from it.

They honestly could have kept them with the abilities they had before, with maybe a price buff and just reduced their accuracy / critical hit stats and everything would have been fine.

I wouldn't have even cared if they kept infiltration or the spawn time if they had simply brought them in line with other similar units instead of allowing them to be ultra lethal as they still are now.

Have you tried crewing them with the Support Paras? Para-crewed team weapons can reinforce from Pathfinder beacons.

Honestly, that's just too much of a manpower sink for me, since they cost 30mp to re-enforce making it a really expensive pack howie, especially with how prone to wiping it is now. RE are only 20mp to re-enforce a pack howie, and since it's behind my lines most of the time it can stay reasonably safe. That said, the moment it's flanked by a rifle nade, or any other sort of arty / nade it will be wiped very quickly. Also, airborne take forever to re-enforce too.

I never really use beacon re-enforce anyways, I usually have an ambulance out by the time the airdrop is ready to be called in and I'll just call it in next to my ambulance to re-enforce.