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1 Aug 2019, 11:32 AM
#141
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watch your mouth.

Lulz
1 Aug 2019, 11:44 AM
#142
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You don't need an AEC if OKW skips their light vehicles to rush a tank. If they do get light vehicles, the AEC + its tech is cheaper (20 fuel more for OKW Mechanized vs 15 fuel for AEC unlock and the AEC is 60 fuel compared to 70 for the Puma).

Even if you go for every side tech (except AEC), that is 35 + 15 + 10 + 30 + 115 + 110 - 20 = 295 fuel for a Cromwell, which is less than OKW need for their medium tank (310). So once again, the UKF still has faster tank tech timing in any scenario.

Brits don't need Brens on Tommies to fight STG44 Volksgrenadiers either, they don't need grenades. See video below. They do fine just with Bolster. Besides Bolster, Brit side tech is all optional at the moment.




Right, but you're also paying extra popcap and MP compared to volks. And I could find a great deal of replays where OKW players don't even bother with StG upgrade and instead prioritize inc nades to win early engagements vs Tommy to snowball with luch and puma (later command panther).

Should we nerf incendiary nade to force them into having to use StG? It's the same logic you are using, and plenty of top players like luvnest have highlighted this issue with volks making the use of greencover redundant.


If you're gonna nerf core Tommy DPS you're gonna have to make it cheaper with the MP drain. There's already been power creep with conscript, pgren and gren buffs, volks still the best cost effective and versatile inf (sandbags, Faust, AI upgrade, building clearance) inf the game.

There's no doubt they're strong and over preforming in AI engagements, but you have to look at the broader balance picture rather than vacuum tests.

You mention yourself you want to reduce Tommy DPS to make units in green cover or buildings stronger, but just what other tools to ukf have apart from section spam? Wasp is fragile and mortar pit is useless
1 Aug 2019, 11:55 AM
#143
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If you're gonna nerf core Tommy DPS you're gonna have to make it cheaper with the MP drain


Did you miss the line where it said accuracy would be increased so the DPS would stay the same?
1 Aug 2019, 12:00 PM
#144
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Did you miss the line where it said accuracy would be increased so the DPS would stay the same?


I am talking about your comment and want to make their performance vs heavy cover weaker

Brits are already weak vs heavy cover, if you're gonna hit them with a nerfbat you're gonna have to fix their weaknesses and missing tools. Eg a flamer, flame nade or mortar
1 Aug 2019, 12:03 PM
#145
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You don't need an AEC if OKW skips their light vehicles to rush a tank. If they do get light vehicles, the AEC + its tech is cheaper (20 fuel more for OKW Mechanized vs 15 fuel for AEC unlock and the AEC is 60 fuel compared to 70 for the Puma).

Even if you go for every side tech (except AEC), that is 35 + 15 + 10 + 30 + 115 + 110 - 20 = 295 fuel for a Cromwell, which is less than OKW need for their medium tank (310). So once again, the UKF still has faster tank tech timing in any scenario.

Brits don't need Brens on Tommies to fight STG44 Volksgrenadiers either, they don't need grenades. See video below. They do fine just with Bolster. Besides Bolster, Brit side tech is all optional at the moment.

Did i make it clear, OKW pay 10-15 more fuel for a much better tank - P4 vs cromwell.


1 Aug 2019, 12:08 PM
#146
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An mg42 in building can shut the UKF down for 3-4 fist minutes of a game while OKW can roam through everything in that timeframe just by stum and flame nade, but sure, why not ?
1 Aug 2019, 12:10 PM
#147
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There's also the point that making brens and five man a "must pick" ability limits strategic choice.

Right now if I want to ignore five man and go for a Vickers with four man Tommies to hold off until I go for a commando centric strat I could do that.

But if core Tommy performance is nerfed would these sort of strats still be viable vs a horde of volk spam? Especially stuff like healing changes with having to baby my mg teams back to rear lines with awkward healing restrictions. If tommy healing is that OP just remove it and mirror Brit static healing at the Forward assembly cost with the Otheer bunker. No need for such a complicated and clumsy healing ability that will put off new players.

I think you're making the meta even more dependant and limited on Tommy spam if anything.

No Brit player or allied fanboy ITT would care if Tommies got a heavy nerf and other parts of the faction buffed to Ostheer levels.

The problem is there's no attention to forgotten or neglected parts of the faction after these vacuum tests vs volks and kneejerk nerfs. Pretty sure that's why the old testmod changes got binned, that and relic being stubborn about keeping emplacements.
1 Aug 2019, 12:22 PM
#148
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Another issue of bren tommy is that they have to be stationary in cover to maximize their damage output, which make them extremely sensitive vs indirect. To make thing worse, the only nondoc indirect UKF have is the problematic pit. Same problems happen with lmg42 gren and it is why ost players crying that much about pak howi.

Not many one know that Ost have th gwr 34 and OKW have leig, both are great investment vs Ukf but since Volk and Gren have to be able to do everything, especially Volk, and there is someone above believe bren can fire on the move, i guess this isn't a point.
1 Aug 2019, 12:28 PM
#149
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if you're gonna hit them with a nerfbat


Damage from 16 to 14 and compensating with higher accuracy is a slight adjustment, not a "nerfbat". Besides the fact that I think you are overreacting, we're already ahead of you and also plan to buff the sniper's aimtime and increase the suppression on the Vickers a tiny bit to compensate the slightly decreased IS performance. Amongst other things.
1 Aug 2019, 12:42 PM
#150
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Amongst other things.


I hope OKW Falls are among "other things":)
1 Aug 2019, 12:46 PM
#151
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Damage from 16 to 14 and compensating with higher accuracy is a slight adjustment, not a "nerfbat". Besides the fact that I think you are overreacting, we're already ahead of you and also plan to buff the sniper's aimtime and increase the suppression on the Vickers a tiny bit to compensate the slightly decreased IS performance. Amongst other things.


You are ahead of many one, since most people jusst focus in neft tommy while ignore other parts of the faction.

For the sniper, i suggest give him scope Enfield and move critical shot to tank hunter section.
1 Aug 2019, 13:33 PM
#152
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You are ahead of many one, since most people jusst focus in neft tommy while ignore other parts of the faction.

For the sniper, i suggest give him scope Enfield and move critical shot to tank hunter section.


A scoped Enfield with decent pen and damage against vehicles (Well damage against lights atlease), na. The Britt sniper is fine no changes needed.

I agree with the proposed changes for the infantry sections. However, do still think bolster should take a weapon slot (I know RE can only have one Bren). I do und3rstand it vo y of be messy to work on through.
1 Aug 2019, 15:12 PM
#153
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Damage from 16 to 14 and compensating with higher accuracy is a slight adjustment, not a "nerfbat". Besides the fact that I think you are overreacting, we're already ahead of you and also plan to buff the sniper's aimtime and increase the suppression on the Vickers a tiny bit to compensate the slightly decreased IS performance. Amoungst other things.


I hope that by Vicker's suppression, you mean you guys are considering the AOE suppression. The Vicker's inability to stop angry mobs charging directly at it the way that the MG42 can, is a cause for concern.

Also for the for the love of all that is holy, please do something about the Comet so that we can start seeing more diverse strats from Brit players. At the very least you could buff the vet.

1 Aug 2019, 15:53 PM
#154
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As i said, UKF pay for side tech, which delay their tech to armor, OKW is not. volk get stg on the field, tommy have to go back to HQ to get 5 man and bren, etc so for and so on.


How much side tech does UKF cost?

How much cheaper is a getting a cromwell vs a P4?

Its like you dont know what things cost in this game.
1 Aug 2019, 16:05 PM
#155
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We have removed the cover bonus from British infantry. Previously British infantry would be harder to kill, even if flanked due to the nature of the bonus.

Removed the -10% received accuracy for All British infantry when in cover


The 5th man is the cover bonus.
1 Aug 2019, 16:37 PM
#156
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I hope that by Vicker's suppression, you mean you guys are considering the AOE suppression. The Vicker's inability to stop angry mobs charging directly at it the way that the MG42 can, is a cause for concern.

Thanks for the suggestion, will keep that in mind.


Also for the for the love of all that is holy, please do something about the Comet so that we can start seeing more diverse strats from Brit players. At the very least you could buff the vet.

The Comet is on the list, at the moment it's planned to get slightly better AOE, reload added to veterancy and to get heavy crush.
1 Aug 2019, 17:03 PM
#157
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How much side tech does UKF cost?

How much cheaper is a getting a cromwell vs a P4?

Its like you dont know what things cost in this game.



35 fuel for bolter, 15 for bren, 10 for nade, 15 for unlock bofor or AEC, 30 to built bofor, 60 to built AEC.

Cromwell is 110 fuel, OKW P4 is 140, OST P4 is 120.

if UKF go full tech, OKW just have to pay 15 more fuel for a P4, whichs is a much better tank. If UKF rush for cromwell, tommy will be left 4 man, unupgrade and get shreeded.

may be i dont know all the cost of the axis, but i'm sure know the cost àn tech structure of UKF.
1 Aug 2019, 19:08 PM
#158
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Damage from 16 to 14 and compensating with higher accuracy is a slight adjustment, not a "nerfbat". Besides the fact that I think you are overreacting, we're already ahead of you and also plan to buff the sniper's aimtime and increase the suppression on the Vickers a tiny bit to compensate the slightly decreased IS performance. Amongst other things.


A quick question. Do you feel playing against ostheer is easier for the brits that vs OKW?
2 Aug 2019, 02:30 AM
#159
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I hope that by Vicker's suppression, you mean you guys are considering the AOE suppression. The Vicker's inability to stop angry mobs charging directly at it the way that the MG42 can, is a cause for concern.

Also for the for the love of all that is holy, please do something about the Comet so that we can start seeing more diverse strats from Brit players. At the very least you could buff the vet.


no allied mgs are capable of stopping angry blobs. thats by design for some reason. some cant even stop them once they get vet 1 and preload their "do the job i was built for" ability by design.
just like the okw command panther and tying it to tech, if volks cant hoard their way through everything itll ruin the faction
2 Aug 2019, 06:35 AM
#160
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Thanks for the suggestion, will keep that in mind.

The Comet is on the list, at the moment it's planned to get slightly better AOE, reload added to veterancy and to get heavy crush.


Most excellent! I look forward to seeing what you guys come up with.
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OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
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OKSpitfire: Well... going to be seeing the Pershing a lot for a little while, that thing is a monster.
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NigelBallsworth: axis stuff is getting more meme by the second
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aerafield: Cloaked instapin MGs at 0cp. I wanna see no more crying about the Dingo while that shit is in the game :snfPeter:
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Willy Pete: And only on annihilation, and I have to let the AI live long enough...
28 Feb 2025, 02:04 AM
Willy Pete: Pershing is absurd, but ive still only gotten to use it against AI
28 Feb 2025, 02:03 AM
Lady Xenarra: WTB Pershing for Axis, that is all :lolol:
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27 Feb 2025, 02:34 AM
Willy Pete: I havent even seen a pershing yet. Coh3 games still move too fast for it lol
27 Feb 2025, 00:30 AM
shinasukac: kingtiger=kingjoker
26 Feb 2025, 16:27 PM
Lady Xenarra: Has anyone actually used the KT much? My experience is that the match is usually over long before I get the CPs for it
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26 Feb 2025, 06:37 AM
Rosbone: Observer mode sucks, player stats pages are scatter brained mess, etc etc etc
26 Feb 2025, 06:35 AM
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25 Feb 2025, 18:12 PM
Rosbone: No 4v4 maps, busted menus 2 years after release, still have not fixed janky sounds people have complained about for over 2 years, etc etc.
25 Feb 2025, 18:10 PM
Rosbone: And the skirmish menus are still at a BETA level. Just the largest game play mode completely ignored... again.
25 Feb 2025, 18:09 PM
Willy Pete: Oh wtf. Yeah the crossing remake was in the 2v2 demo. No more 3s and 4s is a bummer tho
25 Feb 2025, 16:42 PM
aerafield: What? No, he means that all the new maps are for 1v1. Though Im pretty sure they will be playable in 2v2 as well
25 Feb 2025, 15:50 PM
Willy Pete: Are the maps really locked behind dlc? Surely they must be in the regular update
25 Feb 2025, 15:22 PM
Rosbone: I would like to join in celebration with the 9% of Coh3 MP players who are getting ALL of the new maps. Woohoo! #3Tards
21 Feb 2025, 19:22 PM
OKSpitfire: I hope that at least one of heavies is a like-for-like reskin of the coh 2 ISU-152. I miss that thing.
21 Feb 2025, 10:23 AM
Rosbone: Buy our cool new large tanks that will never get played on the 4 new 1v1 maps added. Perfect synergy! :facepalm:
20 Feb 2025, 19:23 PM
Rosbone: Everyone ready for some deep penetration :snfPeter:
20 Feb 2025, 17:13 PM
Lady Xenarra: I'm sure the ppl who defended it as balanced for Allies will be screaming like they got scaled with boiling water, in COH3. How the tables turn.
20 Feb 2025, 11:33 AM
Willy Pete: I think it was nuts with any engine damage. Especially on superheavies
20 Feb 2025, 07:03 AM
aerafield: Personally I think without the ram ability, it's worse than loiters for example
20 Feb 2025, 00:09 AM
Willy Pete: It combined well with most slowing abilities, not just ram stuns
19 Feb 2025, 23:36 PM
Willy Pete: Only??? I think not being able to shoot it down and the ramp up effect also had something to do with it
19 Feb 2025, 23:34 PM
Willy Pete: Really
19 Feb 2025, 23:30 PM
aerafield: AT overwatch was broken only because it came with the faction of T34 ramming
19 Feb 2025, 22:29 PM
Willy Pete: Love to see Relic really learning from their past mistakes. Let's bring back the dumbest ability in coh2, and charge money for it
19 Feb 2025, 20:34 PM
Willy Pete: New DAK commander will have AT overwatch as alternate choice to elefant
19 Feb 2025, 20:33 PM
aaa: Funy thing new players dont know that. And are trying to compete vs hacks
19 Feb 2025, 10:33 AM
aaa: Online gaming is trash in general, not just coh. On high level there are all cheats in most games
19 Feb 2025, 10:24 AM
aaa: 2 cheaters in 3 days. MH and DH
19 Feb 2025, 09:57 AM
aerafield: I am a simple man, I build Humvees with Pathfinders and Missile Launchers inside, I am happy
18 Feb 2025, 20:57 PM
Lady Xenarra: aerafield lamevee spammer confirmed :nahnah:
18 Feb 2025, 20:42 PM
aerafield: those who know, know: https://www.reddit.com/r/CompanyOfHeroes/s/fPk4yLIgmK
18 Feb 2025, 15:40 PM
adamírcz: Might be onto somethin here, combine side armour existing, maps where flanking is a viable option, and hopefully also heavies actually being less manouverable than mediums (lookin at you coh2), and it might be fun gameplay
17 Feb 2025, 13:39 PM
Willy Pete: Shouldn't coh3 heavies actually have insane front armor values? The glory days of 400+ Kt armor wouldn't be as bad when side armor is a thing. Not to say its a good idea lol
14 Feb 2025, 23:14 PM
aerafield: But then again, maybe CoH3 superheavies should actually have insane armor values because the whole game is designed for the clumsy & inept anyway :snfPeter:
14 Feb 2025, 23:04 PM
aerafield: It's like you have to coordinate an entire orchestra of abilities and the correct units, meanwhile your opponent just clicks his 1 superheavy tank occasionally...
14 Feb 2025, 23:01 PM
aerafield: the giga frontal armor also made these units too oppressive in average or low ELO games
14 Feb 2025, 22:59 PM
aerafield: Massive HP pool but reasonable amount of armor is way healthier design
14 Feb 2025, 22:57 PM
aerafield: Say what you want, but the titanium frontal armor design of coh2 superheavies was bullshit. Too many bad players not getting punished for their bad micro because penetration RNG carries them
14 Feb 2025, 22:57 PM
Willy Pete: Also the attack ground with the pak40 looked perfect, that Pershing should be dead
14 Feb 2025, 19:18 PM
Willy Pete: Ahh just saw the other one that died. Some bad rng I think but there was an AT gun at med range for a chunk of that fight
14 Feb 2025, 19:14 PM
Willy Pete: Which KT? I saw one got almost deleted but it also showed its side to a hellcat AND the m5. I think the player even admitted he got lucky
14 Feb 2025, 19:10 PM
Lady Xenarra: I understand that the devs want to sell the Allied part of the DLC, but the KT got swiss cheesed like a COH2 bunker on treads :S
14 Feb 2025, 15:16 PM
SupremeStefan: They should make dlc separataly for axis and alies
14 Feb 2025, 10:28 AM
SupremeStefan: 25$ is actually a ok price for 40 abilites = 8 commanders = 4 battlegroups. But problem is that it comes in bundle
14 Feb 2025, 10:24 AM
Willy Pete: Have they shown the actual trees yet for the new commanders? Skimmed through the deep dive today, didnt see em
13 Feb 2025, 22:29 PM
Rosbone: Big Tonk boners incoming :hansGASM:
13 Feb 2025, 17:38 PM
donofsandiego: Probably not
12 Feb 2025, 14:57 PM
Lone-Wolf: Hi guys. Error code -4. Any fixes?
08 Feb 2025, 17:09 PM
donofsandiego: Probably not
07 Feb 2025, 16:57 PM
SkYisTheLimiT_CoH: any coh2.org admin there ?
07 Feb 2025, 12:43 PM
Lady Xenarra: Ever the contrarian, aerafield.
07 Feb 2025, 11:59 AM
aerafield: I havent seen the new units in action yet (whose BGs will not be purchased by too many people as they are pretty expensive I recon), but I can say with 100% confidence that the Pershing needs a buff
07 Feb 2025, 02:31 AM
Lady Xenarra: I would think lots more players would come/return since there's so many iconic units being added in the new BGs. I just don't want to hear another 8+ yrs of Pershing need buff complaints
06 Feb 2025, 23:22 PM
adamírcz: If I had my supply of copium, Id say they might at least get enough money to not have to wait 5 months with problems that should be a matter of bi-weekly hotfix
06 Feb 2025, 23:10 PM
adamírcz: I mean, its overpriced,
06 Feb 2025, 23:10 PM
Rosbone: Will it help or hurt the current player base is the real question. Should add more players, but may drive many away.
06 Feb 2025, 19:17 PM
Rosbone: Yes you too can play with a persdhing for the low price of $24.99 USD. Or be the poor schlub who gets his rectum reconfigured who doesnt have the latest pay to win stuffs.
06 Feb 2025, 19:16 PM
donofsandiego: persdhing in coh 3? 😳
06 Feb 2025, 18:42 PM
Rosbone: @aerafield Ahhh, I think I made a pershing like twice in my life since that commander is pretty bad in 4s.
05 Feb 2025, 23:20 PM
aerafield: @Rosbone coh2 pershing has the same ability so, whatever. Though it's probably gonna be a 30 seconds ability to make it super broken pay to win, then 2 months later it will get "hotfixed" into a skillshot like coh2 pershing
05 Feb 2025, 22:00 PM
Rosbone: How do we feel about Pershing shooting thru multiple buildings?
05 Feb 2025, 19:43 PM
Rosbone: I am just happy Relic was smart enough to put this out now because the community was falling asleep waiting 3 months between patches. And a new/old map was shown :banana:
05 Feb 2025, 19:38 PM
aerafield: Not even the trailer can hide the trash sound effects
05 Feb 2025, 18:46 PM

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