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Now because of the satchel you cant push them. Before even a 222 pushed them around. The ptrs was a downgrade before the atsatchel was added. It has a very short range for that reason. It can as you said be used to finish of or severly cripple already snared armour.
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True. However, when a vehicle does get snared it is a perfectly valid option to finish it off with a satchel/satchels. Happens on high level play too. Also satchels and snares on an at weapon holding squads eliminate certain possiblities of engaging them.
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Well if you upgrade the G43 you can still get 1 Panzershreck and keep the snare
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Couldn't agree more. Panzergrens are still very delicate. You invest a lot of manpower plus 100 munitions and they can be too easily wiped. A risky unit. What's more they completely, one may say, lose their anty inf capabilities when upgraded with shrecks. So they become sort of expensive support unit. But to the point: allied ikfantry anti tank options are more varied than those of axis.
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That's also why I did not buy them. But I have not played OST very much since the patch, so maybe they're better now? I just feel that in most cases I'm better off with a PaK that costs the same MP, saves mun and has better AT although at the cost of mobility.
Well, the infantry based AT for USF and UKF is better in my opinion since they can put it on cheap engineer squads. Easier to reinforce and it actually buffs their combat value quite a lot.
Axis only have Panzerfüsiliere as a comparable unit. They're great with Panzerschrecks, but doctrinal. Sturmpios are also too expensive for AT in my eyes.
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Not only cant you push them but also you can't close on them which means you will need more time to inflict dmg.
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Penals need time to do damage with the ptrs as well. Its not instant alpha damage afteral.
Meaning they will take more fire in the process.
Again without the satchel they are the easiest to push around.
My feeling is still that ost should get satchels with the advent of really heavy allied tanks so the game is even more balanced. Posts: 1289
It'a all true.
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Allies can get snare with hand held at. Wich is overall less effective but more flexibel as a counter messure.
Ost has far more effective hand held at. But only available on 1 unit. And their dedicated at units the pak and stug have a snare. They have the strongest at mine.
Okw is the only faction with t0 at gun. And have non doc cloaking on their at units. And can move at better speeds while cloaked with vet.
Further more, ost had the ostwind buffed the pgrenz where buffed. Booating their ai and light at.
Pgrens dont need and do not deserve another buff.
With al due respect. To me this seems like the gras is greener on the other side of the fence situation.
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Well, I play all factions and have best stats as USF. I'm not ost fanboy by any means. I have a feeling that ost is underpowered. It was designed as a faction that was supposed to be on the defensive at the beginning of the game. Later it was supposed to make a comeback with heavy tanks. Allied players, in posts similar to this one, demanded stronger and more versatile unjts. And they were largely successful. Ost got neglected, unlike OKW, and imho is underperforming. Of course best players can make it work but it is so much less forgiving and you really have to be on your toes all the time. Snares are a good example here. Allied players, I assume, not playing ost keep asking for more snares even though they have more of them on more survivable units. The author of this post apparently forgot that they can equip at weapons on various squads. It's just incredible.
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That cheezy little shock crew ability thay some vehicles and explosives have doesn't count as a snare do I hope no one is talking about that. To me an actual snare is where you permanently damage the engine until the vehicle isn100 percent repaired.
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To me an actual snare is where you permanently damage the engine until the vehicle isn100 percent repaired.
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Didn't know stug get snare veichels
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Didn't know stug get snare veichels
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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again so much miss information
Its a weaker twp then that of the pack. It slows down a vehicle same way button does. But cant be broken with smoke or sight blockers or getting out of range after button started.
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again so much miss information
stug :+100% penetration, will lock enemy vehicles turret temporarily and disable its main gun.
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Then i stand corrected. I thought it also slowed movement speed.
I knew there were more version of twp. I believed the unifying thing was slow movement.
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