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Rifle squad and Calliope need more buff.

3 May 2019, 19:47 PM
#41
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Single Grenadier is best mainline infantry,so 30 for a man ,contrast Riflemen and UKF infantry I think is balance,but biggest problem of Grenadier I think is 4men squad size and too late bouns for survival,give more survival bouns (more receive accuracy reduce or damage reduce)for Grenadier in vet2 is enough


Is that why people started spamming Stormtroopers and skipping T1?
3 May 2019, 20:12 PM
#42
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The new calliope is definitely not bad. I was hesitant about the health reduction last patch but it's still miles ahead in durability so I reckon that's fine.
3 May 2019, 20:53 PM
#43
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The new calliope is definitely not bad. I was hesitant about the health reduction last patch but it's still miles ahead in durability so I reckon that's fine.


It doesn't get hurt by small arm and takes eons to kill with small pen caliber weapons as the 222. It still survives 3 shots of 160dmg. If you use shift queues, HP should be one of your least concerns with it.
3 May 2019, 22:00 PM
#44
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Is that why people started spamming Stormtroopers and skipping T1?

Spamming stormtroopers?340/34 manpower cost How to spam ?It's joke?
3 May 2019, 22:24 PM
#45
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Spamming stormtroopers?340/34 manpower cost How to spam ?It's joke?
tell that to pros
3 May 2019, 23:30 PM
#46
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That's still 4,5 DPS at long range, putting them at something like 10DPS, which is base penal long range DPS(10,8 to be precise).
Osttruppen are pretty damn good now, vet like mad and scale really great, its dictionary example of how cheap unit should scale.

Are you sure about your numbers? Because Osttruppen actually have a -50% accuracy penalty (at least to their K98).
3 May 2019, 23:45 PM
#47
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tell that to pros


pros do not use any "storm trooper"
3 May 2019, 23:57 PM
#48
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Tightrope had 17 kills on his first barrage with it, today. :clap:



maybe some noob guy slayed by Tightrope?
3 May 2019, 23:59 PM
#49
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Riflemen are fine. They need some vet bonuses shifted to vet1. Volks need a small nerf though. The least intrusive nerf to volks is increase to 260, lock sandbags behind vet 1 or 2. I have better ideas about how to deal with volks but those ideas are likely too ambitious.
4 May 2019, 00:04 AM
#50
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I won't say anything on Rifles, but people have tried the upcoming Calliope? It's pretty lethal and it can close the distance to reduce the scatter.


Its funny how people fail to realize that the calliope is NOT afraid of minimum range barrages unlike all other rocket arty due to having the health of a normal Sherman. People should be using them at min range almost every time.
4 May 2019, 00:05 AM
#51
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Its funny how people fail to realize that the calliope is NOT afraid of minimum range barrages unlike all other rocket arty due to having the health of a normal Sherman. People should be using them at min range almost every time.


Shermans have 640 health. Calliopes have 400.
4 May 2019, 00:07 AM
#52
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 May 2019, 23:30 PMVipper

Are you sure about your numbers? Because Osttruppen actually have a -50% accuracy penalty (at least to their K98).

I remember all osttruppen have -50% accuracy debuff for all weapon,but cover bouns only for them 98k...
4 May 2019, 00:09 AM
#53
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2019, 00:05 AMLago


Shermans have 640 health. Calliopes have 400.


3hit kill, still much better than 1hit.
4 May 2019, 00:09 AM
#54
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3hit kill, still much better than 1hit.


Oh, definitely. It's a huge advantage over other rocket arty.

A Sherman exploding in one hit'd be weird though.
4 May 2019, 00:16 AM
#55
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I remember all osttruppen have -50% accuracy debuff for all weapon,but cover bouns only for them 98k...

Its abit more complicated than that.

K98 have a -50% accuracy penalty and +300% accuracy buff in cover.

According to patch notes Slot weapon have -25% accuracy penalty when in cover.

I have not checked the editor to see if any other modifiers apply to slot weapons.
4 May 2019, 00:19 AM
#56
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2019, 00:16 AMVipper

Its abit more complicated than that.

K98 have a -50% accuracy penalty and +300% accuracy buff in cover.

According to patch notes Slot weapon have -25% accuracy penalty when in cover.

I have not checked the editor to see if any other modifiers apply to slot weapons.


The difference is that extreme?

That explains a lot of my recent games.
4 May 2019, 00:41 AM
#57
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2019, 00:16 AMVipper

Its abit more complicated than that.

K98 have a -50% accuracy penalty and +300% accuracy buff in cover.

According to patch notes Slot weapon have -25% accuracy penalty when in cover.

I have not checked the editor to see if any other modifiers apply to slot weapons.

Thank you for your explain
4 May 2019, 02:25 AM
#58
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It doesn't get hurt by small arm and takes eons to kill with small pen caliber weapons as the 222. It still survives 3 shots of 160dmg. If you use shift queues, HP should be one of your least concerns with it.

I agree.
4 May 2019, 08:47 AM
#59
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 May 2019, 23:30 PMVipper

Are you sure about your numbers? Because Osttruppen actually have a -50% accuracy penalty (at least to their K98).

I'm talking about when they are in cover, not out of it.
4 May 2019, 08:59 AM
#60
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I'm talking about when they are in cover, not out of it.


As far as K98 goes:
Osttruppen have x50% accuracy penalty both in and out of cover.

They get a x300% accuracy when in cover.

That translates in half the DPS of what the stat suggest when out of cover and x150% when in cover.

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