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That's not my point, my point is, you don't need to be soldier to serve on frontline/participate in combat.
Partisans anyone?
Regardless, no ss will ever appear in any game, because its political, not military force, doesn't matter what they used or what they did, they still origin from political source, not military.
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Again, they were political, not military.
Just because you have an uniform and a gun does not make you a soldier.
Best equipment doesn't make you most elite either.
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Are you saying these men were not soldiers? Thats crazy, I have distant family who fought in the SS and most of them were killed guess what... fighting. Yes they were soilders.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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By definition Civilians do not fight.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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By definition, partisans and resistance movements can consist of fighting civilians.
Simply not frontline fighting.
Whole volkssturm was made out of civilians(too old and too young to ever be considered soldiers) who were given rifles, fausts and pointed towards enemy.
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By definition, partisans and resistance movements can consist of fighting civilians.
Simply not frontline fighting.
Whole volkssturm was made out of civilians(too old and too young to ever be considered soldiers) who were given rifles, fausts and pointed towards enemy.
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As soon a civilian uses a gun he is no longer considered civilian.
Suggestion:
Open a dictionary and stop arguing semantics pls.
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Or we could go by US doctrine and say that any male that is old enough to MAYBE use a gun is no longer a Civilian
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That's not my point, my point is, you don't need to be soldier to serve on frontline/participate in combat.
Partisans anyone?
Regardless, no ss will ever appear in any game, because its political, not military force, doesn't matter what they used or what they did, they still origin from political source, not military.
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ostheer. Do not judge me, for my opinion is balanced. 
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Imo Grens should be removed or replaced by panzergrenadiers as mainline infantry for ostheer like in the first coh, although weak at first they should atleast be better than the current grens and they become better and get abilities to increase their utility as you tech up.
I thought axis are supposed to have superior elite infantry but lesser numbers than allied infantry but in its current state grens are just better conscripts but even conscripts now can kill 2 models of pgrens before losing and grens just don't have the numbers (and durability) to survive that long.
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Put grenade, mg and five man behind a fuel+MP upgrade and why not. Tommies also cost more pop cap 5man, so you would need to up gren pop cost too.
Maybe Brits can get a mortar and rocket arty if we are going the clone route.
Grens can't just get this stuff for free while being cheaper out the gate.
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Imo Grens should be removed or replaced by panzergrenadiers as mainline infantry for ostheer like in the first coh, although weak at first they should atleast be better than the current grens and they become better and get abilities to increase their utility as you tech up.
I thought axis are supposed to have superior elite infantry but lesser numbers than allied infantry but in its current state grens are just better conscripts but even conscripts now can kill 2 models of pgrens before losing and grens just don't have the numbers (and durability) to survive that long.
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Currently allies just blob against wehr easily.
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Ost has the best MG in the game, and it's in their hq. They are literally better equipped to deal with blobs than anyone else
Why don't we see where they are after all these core changes before we give a huge buff to their mainlines too. It's not like they're conscript level bad
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That is true, but no one wants to rely always on MG. Hopefully Pzgrens come on the Infanterie Kompanie or After Battle Phase 1. Since there is not any clear resolution for Grens.
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Its still nice to at least have an MG to rely on.
Tbh I'd like to experiment with a new vet 1 ability that gives grens slightly more accuracy against suppressed models to synergize with the mg42 and be able to better punish blobs as a pair. The mg42 is a fantastic weapon but we lose dps when it's commanding an area due to the modifiers of Supression.
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Or we factor in the additional cost of bolstering and weapon racks spread accross the four or so tommie squads an army will reasonably consist of. With all the extra resource and pop cap spent on british mainline you can bring out a support weapon or two for the tommies to be bad against.
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