All heavy tanks need to get good accuracy/scatter and have the AOE profile changed to Brummbär's so they can reliably force off infantry squads in 1-2 hits without wiping them. Better accuracy will also help them a bit in the AT deparment.
After that there can be some minor buffs for specific tanks. KT should get better turret traverse and/or front armor, Tiger should get +5 range, IS-2 perhaps a bit more damage. Pershing will need an HP buff if it's godly wiping power is nerfed.
This way all heavy tanks would have standardized reliable offensive power while retaining some specific traits, such as the KT being slow but heavily armored, the Pershing being an overgrown medium and the Tiger and IS-2 being good all-rounders.
Is2 and other heavy tanks issu
14 Nov 2018, 14:18 PM
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14 Nov 2018, 17:11 PM
#22
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So, what about pershing With 800hp only
14 Nov 2018, 17:15 PM
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My personal favourite buff for the KT is to move the Spearhead ability to Vet 0.
14 Nov 2018, 20:53 PM
#24
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So, what about pershing With 800hp only
Thats off-set by having the heaviest cannon. Heaviest, like the most accurate and wiping one.
Unfortunately, its on a faction that is already filled with good DPS but low survival-ability stuff
USF could realy use a churchill clone
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14 Nov 2018, 23:17 PM
#25
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heavy tanks in team games lol
they are not worth it just spam nomal tanks or tank desroyer only isu,ele,jagt are usefull heavy tanks and maybe the pershing as u can use it as a more powerfull jackson but u could just build 2 jackson instead so your choice
just spam art with a mix of generalist/atgun infantry/TD
they are not worth it just spam nomal tanks or tank desroyer only isu,ele,jagt are usefull heavy tanks and maybe the pershing as u can use it as a more powerfull jackson but u could just build 2 jackson instead so your choice
just spam art with a mix of generalist/atgun infantry/TD
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15 Nov 2018, 03:31 AM
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Or... If you are playing a team game maybe it's because you just want to have fun and use whatever the fuck you want to.
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15 Nov 2018, 03:34 AM
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Or... If you are playing a team game maybe it's because you just want to have fun and use whatever the fuck you want to.
Isn't the last tournament being played as a 2v2 Team match?
Anyway if you dont care about 3v3 or 4v4 neither you dont need to be that rude. The game has those modes for a reason...
15 Nov 2018, 04:32 AM
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Isn't the last tournament being played as a 2v2 Team match?
Anyway if you dont care about 3v3 or 4v4 neither you dont need to be that rude. The game has those modes for a reason...
I mostly play 3s and 4s because I can play with more friends that way. I don't mean it as a disrespect to the mode, but the mode will never be balanced and accepting that and just playing what's fun
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15 Nov 2018, 07:38 AM
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I quited using the IS2 like a year ago when I saw a P4 penetrate it frontaly 3 times one after another. Experience has led me to believe the claims that it has the same armor as the KT are false and its actually closer to a Tiger I or its someway nulified by the high penetration of german TDs. ....
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15 Nov 2018, 08:42 AM
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One video a thousand words
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I do not know when I play with the IS-2 ricochet that is rare + the low productivity of the main gun makes this tank useless for me.
15 Nov 2018, 09:24 AM
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I do not know when I play with the IS-2 ricochet that is rare + the low productivity of the main gun makes this tank useless for me.
Chance to bounce vs IS-2 at max range:
more shots will bounce than not.
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More shots will penetrate than bounce.
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15 Nov 2018, 09:47 AM
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Soviets are my favourite faction, and I do not think IS-2 is bad. I tested it in some CheatMode duels "Tiger vs IS-2" and it's about 50/50 win for each, maybe slightly even favouring IS-2. IS-2 can hit infantry really hard (well, if it doesn't miss), and has good armor. The only thing I would change about IS-2 is the doctrines where it's available. Maybe take IS-2 from that doctrine with t34/85 and IL-2 and put it somewhere else.
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15 Nov 2018, 10:47 AM
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Soviets are my favourite faction, and I do not think IS-2 is bad. I tested it in some CheatMode duels "Tiger vs IS-2" and it's about 50/50 win for each, maybe slightly even favouring IS-2. IS-2 can hit infantry really hard (well, if it doesn't miss), and has good armor. The only thing I would change about IS-2 is the doctrines where it's available. Maybe take IS-2 from that doctrine with t34/85 and IL-2 and put it somewhere else.
From a commander design point of view a powerful call-in like the IS-2 and a powerful off map like Il-2 should not be available in the same commander.
Same goes for things like Tiger and stuka AT or Elephant and stuka dive bomb.
IS-2 and T-34/85 are a rather poor combination mainly because one will probably lack the fuel to build both unless in 4vs4.
15 Nov 2018, 11:25 AM
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From a commander design point of view a powerful call-in like the IS-2 and a powerful off map like Il-2 should not be available in the same commander.
Same goes for things like Tiger and stuka AT or Elephant and stuka dive bomb.
IS-2 and T-34/85 are a rather poor combination mainly because one will probably lack the fuel to build both unless in 4vs4.
Yeah, having both t34/85s and IS-2 requires great amounts of fuel, and lots of engineers.
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