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imo it should fire slightly in front of it instead of hosing itself down like a teenage boy in the locker room armed with a can of axe. an arming time or some travel time would be great but a price increase would certainly be nice as well. id like to see it uses as a tactical aid for panzers (like the smoke allied tanks have) instead of a powdered french flag signaling time for a hasty retreat
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OP is right. Panzer tactician is strong. But strong doesn't necessarily mean overpowered or that it requires a change.
If you put a gun on my head and force me to change something i'll just make it so you can't use both smoke and blitzkrieg at the same time.
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Although the title of this thread has some rhyme, it is pretty bad.
I would suggest that if you want make a claim support it other and do not taunt others prove the opposite.
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Axis : [Dives in with a vehicle, HP reduced to ~20%, Allied vehicles or AT infantry gets ready for another salvo. Pops smoke and drives away. Allied players try to chase it down but are instantly forced back by mass Axis concentrations of support weapons and infantry]
Allies : [Dives in with a vehicle, HP reduced to ~20%, attempts to pop smoke, dies from concentrated AT fire before the smoke even pops out].
Axis don't even have to try to kill an Allied tank or even avoid losing a vehicle...
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1. No one dives in with a 20% vehicle.
2. Every side has its unique features. It is like I would suggest to give axis tank crews the same repair ability like USF tanks.
Axis have very expensive tanks and are most outnumbered in tank battles. Allies dive in with a couple of tanks, the ones who are badly damaged drive back and are fast repaired by their own crew, while axis player, who already paid more for the tank, has to build 1-2 addional pios (to have at least 3) to repair at the same level. But axis have still "mass concentration of support weapons and infantry", yeah yeah.
And now you want to take away that smoke solution, which is only in some commanders..
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B4 was only in 1 commander, required vet, recon, pre-aiming, a BUTT load of munitions and most importantly: the enemy to allow you to retain your vet and sit still long enough to give you something to shoot at (and then the 4 years of shell travel time) so it was fine? Now it's a meme unit whose vet ability WAS a non vet ability, that costs 90 mu but can still miss...
Edit: also if poor "Axis" has to build multiple pios to repair (psst. Sturms can speed up their repair with an upgrade and have a truck that will repair) what does the Soviet have to do? At least pios have the capability to support and get vet by being armed with bullets and not blanks.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Edit: also if poor "Axis" has to build multiple pios to repair (psst. Sturms can speed up their repair with an upgrade and have a truck that will repair) what does the Soviet have to do? At least pios have the capability to support and get vet by being armed with bullets and not blanks.
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also if poor "Axis" has to build multiple pios to repair (psst. Sturms can speed up their repair with an upgrade and have a truck that will repair) what does the Soviet have to do?
At least pios have the capability to support and get vet by being armed with bullets and not blanks.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
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I think the problem is the micro tax is 0 for Panzer Tactician. If you are playing US, you incur extra micro tax to use smoke.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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1. No one dives in with a 20% vehicle.
2. Every side has its unique features. It is like I would suggest to give axis tank crews the same repair ability like USF tanks.
Axis have very expensive tanks and are most outnumbered in tank battles. Allies dive in with a couple of tanks, the ones who are badly damaged drive back and are fast repaired by their own crew, while axis player, who already paid more for the tank, has to build 1-2 addional pios (to have at least 3) to repair at the same level. But axis have still "mass concentration of support weapons and infantry", yeah yeah.
And now you want to take away that smoke solution, which is only in some commanders..
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There is also a matter of time between click and effect.
For USF its good couple of seconds before launchers get the smoke to where it needs to be, same with cromwell smoke, PT however is instant and on the tank.
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I don't think it's ever going to be touched, Wehr has a lot of over the top stuff that's been unchanged for years, sadly.
It's really funny when their vehicles can blitz on reverse and pop ninja smoke though.
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