The maxim change impact too much Soviets.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2017, 13:19 PMDelodax

Will be interesting to ser hon them fare post group stages. Haven't watched any placement games but in the streams featuring Soviets I've watched they've looked pretty solid.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2017, 16:35 PMDangerous-Cloth

Meanwhile VonIvan plays only soviets and ostheer for GCS and he thinks soviets are fine.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2017, 16:57 PMc r u C e

Meanwhile Soviets won 6 matches out of what?23? yea,sure..."fiiiine"

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2017, 16:35 PMDangerous-Cloth

Meanwhile VonIvan plays only soviets and ostheer for GCS and he thinks soviets are fine.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2017, 18:29 PMPhy

SU wasnerfed properly. Penals, maxims, t70 needed that adjustment. But its time to buff other stuff, and cons should be the first to start with.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2017, 19:07 PMGrumpy

If Soviets were nerfed properly, they would not have went from OP to UP. Cons should have been buffed at the same time.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2017, 08:59 AMle_saucisson_masque

#SCOPE

balance mod maker would have done much more to fix RELIC game if they had the opportunity, sadly they were limited to a few "completely broken" units like penals without having the possibility to buff the less but still broken units like conscripts.

blame relic for fcking up their last opportunity to fix the whole game once for all, because with the new WWII RTS coming out this year coh2 is pretty much fcked.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2017, 10:06 AMtightrope

I think I agree, the change will put soviets completely in the dumpster.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2017, 13:29 PMGrumpy

Ultimately, COH2 is Relic's game and the state of balance or imbalance is owned by them. It did seem like the balance team had a pro-axis bias but even that would be Relic's mistake since they chose the balance team.

I have been playing Steel Division. It plays more like a simulation than an arcade. It's a lot like Men Of War. I don't think a lot of the people that play COH2 are going to make the switch and stay there. Tanks don't have hit points. Practically every anti-tank gun will kill a Sherman in one shot. Panthers have good frontal armor but if you try charging with one, you'll discover that they have bad side armor and can be killed in one shot from the side.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2017, 17:51 PMle_saucisson_masque

i wasn't speaking only about steel division, i don't remember the name exactly but i think it's "sudden strike 4" which is quite close from COH2.

but yeah, steel division is way less arcade than coh2 but it get much more funnier when you begin to understand all the mechanics + micro needed to win.
it just reward more the experience and knownledge on units (like you said, a sherman armor is not that good so you got to deal with that. on the other hand, their price is lower so you can buy 2 of them to attack a single german panther).

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2017, 00:36 AM__deleted__

maxim needs to be cheaper if its going to be nerfed or penals having a faster build time. The problem soviets have with their buildings if they don't go con spam in the opening then soviets have a relatively slow start.