on the ptrs

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 06:34 AMVuther

Button was long nerfed to be an ability that doesn't really work all that well even when the vehicle's engine-damaged.

I'd say to buff it by making the combat penalties harsher, but keep the speed stuff exactly the same. Keep it a good tool for fending off flanking vehicles and perhaps give a noticeable edge in a fight against an engine-damaged vehicle, keep it away from the "lolstunlock" it used to do.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 10:33 AMMr.Smith

What the AT rifles (PTRS, Bois) lacks compared to other infantry-ported AT weapons is an unacceptably long aim time before the first round goes out.

Bazooka/Piat/Panzerschreck:
- you right-click on the enemy? Whoosh, there goes your rocket out instantly (1.25 waiting time)

PTRS:
- You have to wait for 2.75 secs before your first shot goes out)

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 10:33 AMMr.Smith

What the AT rifles (PTRS, Bois) lacks compared to other infantry-ported AT weapons is an unacceptably long aim time before the first round goes out.

Bazooka/Piat/Panzerschreck:
- you right-click on the enemy? Whoosh, there goes your rocket out instantly (1.25 waiting time)

PTRS:
- You have to wait for 2.75 secs before your first shot goes out)

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 11:00 AMpigsoup

it is more accurate though right (against vehicles)?

I am not sure about PTRS being bad... guards are in a good spot and i do not think Con PTRS commander's main problem is that con PTRS suck. I am afraid if we buff the weapon it might have bad influence on guards.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 11:00 AMpigsoup

it is more accurate though right (against vehicles)?

I am not sure about PTRS being bad... guards are in a good spot and i do not think Con PTRS commander's main problem is that con PTRS suck. I am afraid if we buff the weapon it might have bad influence on guards.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 11:06 AMStug life

good spot ?

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 11:42 AMpigsoup

good long range, 6 men, scares away light vehicle + button (i know it is useless most of the time but it is really useful if you catch a vehicle on a dive)....

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 11:54 AMStug life

the aim time is too much and button really need a rework pazer fuast cost less and effect is permanent and you need dp28 to use it
the ptrs damage is 27 with ginormous cool down and aim time and has 85 pen with no deflect damage

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 14:53 PMMissCommissar

1. PTRS to...

1.1 Penals;

1.2 Cons (Better second, since Penals are hard AI, Cons will be light AT support);

2. PTRS Guards out, Leased M9s in.

3. ???

4. Balanced soviet infantry!!!

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 14:53 PMMissCommissar

1. PTRS to...

1.1 Penals;

1.2 Cons (Better second, since Penals are hard AI, Cons will be light AT support);

2. PTRS Guards out, Leased M9s in.

3. ???

4. Balanced soviet infantry!!!

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 13:04 PMTiger Baron

Just a little note, the PTRS is not only used by Guards but by Cons from the Tank Hunter tactics commander as well, but buffing it would mean you would also need to buff the German and British equivalents to the same levels so it's fair to everybody SINCE they're basically the same thing, all are mostly firing a .55 cal round.

Fun fact, the Soviet PTRS and PDRS are actually copied from a Finnish weapon, like the PPSh.

And yes I know that the Soviets are the main users of Anti-Tank rifles and that it's their only hand-held AT weapon compared to other Armies but having the British Tank Hunter Section is the Brits' only way of fighting early light vehicles because of the PIAT's inaccuracy while Idk Relic might decide to add a new German squad that uses the German Panzerbusche AT Rifle? For example a Panzerjager squad to the OKW that can upgrade to a single (or double) Shreck(s) that come by default with the AT rifle tho.
And buffing the PTRS entitiy also buffs the Con ones, not just the Guard ones.