Just like that 'free major', and 'free captain', and 'free lieutenant' for the USF teching?
Yes.
UKF technically repeated the mess with free howitzers but no one notices because they're shit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Reduce Braces Effect/ Mortar Pits less accurate
13 Apr 2016, 03:50 AM
#141
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
Yes.
UKF technically repeated the mess with free howitzers but no one notices because they're shit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
13 Apr 2016, 04:22 AM
#142
Posts: 875 | Subs: 2
UKF technically repeated the mess with free howitzers but no one notices because they're shit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'll spare you the time by telling you to skip to 1:26 in the video.
13 Apr 2016, 05:24 AM
#143
Posts: 928
I hopy you are just trolling but if you don't I'm going to explain you.
Yes, 200 fuel to erase cheaper unit in few seconds. Not to counter. You can counter it in a lot cheaper way but it will take take to kill it, but for 200fuel you can erase it in seconds.
Calliope needs 4 barrages to kill Schwerer. That's 560fuel to kill Schwerer! Absurd, right?
Sure, you can kill it a lot cheaper but if you want to kill it in 3-4 seconds, then you need 560fuel.
Sorry if I'm backposting but this is a ridiculous comparison.
Schwerer doesn't have brace, it doesn't have a "har har I am invincible now" button that makes axis direct assaults against emplacements impractical and doesn't have a doctrinal health buff either. Also lose your Schwerer and you lose tech as well, not just delay but lose it.
And finally, no you can't cherrypick your arguments here either. It seems you're the one who's trolling.
Had fun doing this earlier
13 Apr 2016, 07:07 AM
#144
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
Just like that 'free major', and 'free captain', and 'free lieutenant' for the USF teching?
Free Ltn/Cpt/Mjr < Free nades, free schrecks, free healing, free repairs, free flak gun.
Sorry if I'm backposting but this is a ridiculous comparison.
Schwerer doesn't have brace, it doesn't have a "har har I am invincible now" button that makes axis direct assaults against emplacements impractical and doesn't have a doctrinal health buff either. Also lose your Schwerer and you lose tech as well, not just delay but lose it.
And finally, no you can't cherrypick your arguments here either. It seems you're the one who's trolling.
It is building. Why would anyone want to give units' abilities to builings? Sure, give it brce, but make it 1000HP. Once brace, all units in productions are paused for the duration of brace. With 1000HP and brace you won't see any Schwerer's units on the field. lel
13 Apr 2016, 07:12 AM
#145
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
Yes.
UKF technically repeated the mess with free howitzers but no one notices because they're shit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At least UKF has a valid excuse of not having any kind of stock, mobile indirect fire and while pit is effective, you can't really compare it to stuka, pwerfer or katy.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
13 Apr 2016, 08:12 AM
#146
Posts: 1930
Yes.
UKF technically repeated the mess with free howitzers but no one notices because they're shit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
the UKF need to spend 45 mu per barrage on top of the upgrade itself. It's not free.
look at it this way:
a katyusha cost 360 mp 85 fuel. That's worth 785 mp, so about 4 munition caches.
4 munition caches grant you 20 extra munition per two minute, so basically one extra barrage every two minutes. The Katyusha take 110 seconds to recharge.
13 Apr 2016, 09:20 AM
#147
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you cant calculate it like that.
45 mu is 2 grenades. now think ybout how much 2 grenades usually kill (especially against a good enemy) and you will see, that 45 mun are very cheap, especially considering that the bofors can then counter some if its counters with it
45 mu is 2 grenades. now think ybout how much 2 grenades usually kill (especially against a good enemy) and you will see, that 45 mun are very cheap, especially considering that the bofors can then counter some if its counters with it
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13 Apr 2016, 10:18 AM
#148
Posts: 4474
All the people say that brace is necessary because of leig and lfh
But the mortar has the same range as the leig so while you trade shoot you bleed him with potential wipe and for lfh cost 500 mp is doctrinal comes late
Just make brace cost 60 mun or make it reduce damage only for indirect fire
But the mortar has the same range as the leig so while you trade shoot you bleed him with potential wipe and for lfh cost 500 mp is doctrinal comes late
Just make brace cost 60 mun or make it reduce damage only for indirect fire
katitof-2018
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13 Apr 2016, 13:15 PM
#149
Posts: 928
It is building. Why would anyone want to give units' abilities to builings? Sure, give it brce, but make it 1000HP. Once brace, all units in productions are paused for the duration of brace. With 1000HP and brace you won't see any Schwerer's units on the field. lel
Absolutely convinced you're trolling now, gj
Had fun doing this earlier
13 Apr 2016, 13:33 PM
#150
Posts: 148
'Brace' is a unique feature for the British Forces. There is no reason why Axis factions should get it without giving British Forces a unique aspect of Axis.
British Design puts them as the most Defensively-focused faction in the game.
British Design puts them as the most Defensively-focused faction in the game.
13 Apr 2016, 17:52 PM
#151
Posts: 728
All the people say that brace is necessary because of leig and lfh
But the mortar has the same range as the leig so while you trade shoot you bleed him with potential wipe and for lfh cost 500 mp is doctrinal comes late
Just make brace cost 60 mun or make it reduce damage only for indirect fire
No it is necessary because it cannot move or retreat.
Lieg can move. What is funny is I see okw make two liegs all the time, guess what? they put them right fucking next to each other so when I counter barrage there is a good chance a missed shell hits the other leig.
13 Apr 2016, 18:25 PM
#152
Posts: 1217
No it is necessary because it cannot move or retreat.One "brace" please for the OKW trucks when set up. They can´t move after all.
13 Apr 2016, 18:30 PM
#153
Posts: 728
One "brace" please for the OKW trucks when set up. They can´t move after all.
emplacements cannot brace while being built last time I checked, the guys building it can also be killed.
13 Apr 2016, 18:33 PM
#154
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
One "brace" please for the OKW trucks when set up. They can´t move after all.
Tier builings =/= units.
But fine, give them 7pop cap each and we are good to go
13 Apr 2016, 18:47 PM
#155
Posts: 1890 | Subs: 1
Man this thread has it all. Bitching about brace and emplacements, OKW teching, FREE SQUADS, etc. Just need to add something about Volk's shreks and we have a one stop shop for complaining!
On topic... I think the one change that DEFINITELY needs to be made to Advanced Emplacements is that the Forward Assembly shouldn't repair itself (which is unbelievably stupid). That way you can easily focus it down and the lynchpin of Sim City 2.0 is gone.
Otherwise emplacements are mostly fine - although I agree that on certain maps the Mortar Pit is kinda OP (Lost Glider is covers like ALL the strategic points).
On topic... I think the one change that DEFINITELY needs to be made to Advanced Emplacements is that the Forward Assembly shouldn't repair itself (which is unbelievably stupid). That way you can easily focus it down and the lynchpin of Sim City 2.0 is gone.
Otherwise emplacements are mostly fine - although I agree that on certain maps the Mortar Pit is kinda OP (Lost Glider is covers like ALL the strategic points).
13 Apr 2016, 18:54 PM
#156
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
Mortar pits kinda OP atm on some maps. I hope it gets fixed, certain commanders should be fixed.
Elephant and Jadtgiger are OP on certain maps.
Snipers are OP on ceratin maps.
HMG are OP on certain maps.
etc
etc
Should we nerf them? No becasue it's problem with the map, not unit.
16 Apr 2016, 19:56 PM
#157
Posts: 1281 | Subs: 3
Remove counter-arty and the game is balanced IMO. Then you can counter emplacements and motar emplacements with long range and vehicle based arty, or multiple leigs.
16 Apr 2016, 20:06 PM
#158
Posts: 320
Brace should cost some ammunition. Also i would like to see PAK43 etc also like a 17pdr, that you can only destroy it and not conquer it.
16 Apr 2016, 21:41 PM
#159
Posts: 4474
Elephant and Jadtgiger are OP on certain maps.
Snipers are OP on ceratin maps.
HMG are OP on certain maps.
etc
etc
Should we nerf them? No becasue it's problem with the map, not unit.
but people still make post about them
katitof-2018
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17 Apr 2016, 10:31 AM
#160
Posts: 526
'Brace' is a unique feature for the British Forces. There is no reason why Axis factions should get it without giving British Forces a unique aspect of Axis.
British Design puts them as the most Defensively-focused faction in the game.
That's nice. But then why do the UKF also have the best light vehicle in the game, the best medium tanks in the game and the most deadly and versatile offensive special forces in the game? Not to mention most close combat engineers. All these things are distinctly offensive characteristics.
In my opinion, Brits should indeed be focussed on defense, as they were supposedly designed. At the moment they are too much a master of all trades.
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