Remove Terminator Vet OR Buff Axis Elite

Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2016, 20:41 PMKatitof

(...math...)

Math says grens reinforce for slightly LESS then other squads in comparison to conscripts for example.

Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2016, 22:12 PMDoomlord52

Grens lose 1 model (3/4):
Total HP pool -25%
Total DPS -25%
Total models -25%
DPS vs. remaining 3 models +8% (since each takes 33% now)

Rifles lose 1 model (4/5):
Total HP pool -20%
Total DPS -20%
Total models -20%
DPS vs. remaining 4 models +5% (each takes 25% now)

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Every time a gren squad takes a loss, its effectiveness drops FAR more than any other mainline squad in the game. This snowballs as losses increase at a quicker rate than any other squad, meaning they need to retreat sooner, reducing field time/presence. In addition, the cost per loss is greater, even though the chance for a loss is also greater, resulting in a much higher combat-upkeep than other squads.

Logic says they should cost less.

Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2016, 22:45 PMHans G. Schultz

If only Grens could have G43s & LMG42 like they used to... Show Spoiler

Jump back to quoted post24 Feb 2016, 06:34 AMFiresparks

there's like three doctrines with the g43, and one them is rarely used.

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2016, 20:12 PMCarlos Danger

Axis infantry are basically fine but the 1919 Rifle blob is probably too strong, especially when they're backed by the Major and the Ambulance. The shortened retreat distance and the best healing in the game helps a lot.

Jump back to quoted post25 Feb 2016, 19:36 PMstrafniki

remove forward retreat points. game fixed

Jump back to quoted post25 Feb 2016, 19:36 PMstrafniki

remove forward retreat points. game fixed

Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2016, 22:28 PMKatitof

Yeah, except its Ost who have sniper behind them, not USF.

You're suppose to screen for sniper/HMG and let them do the magic. Grens aren't meant to be on pair with rifles. Gren models are also more durable on model to model basis then rifles.
If you're not dropping rifle models faster or just as fast, you're doing something wrong.

The only reason why USF doesn't auto loses against that is because of squads on tech.

And last but not least, there is 251 which can keep your squads on field.