Concerned about 222 price

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2016, 17:19 PMJaedrik

So what you're saying is...

Brits need homing PIATs

Edit: OOH OHH OR JUST ANTI-TANK INFANTRY SECTIONS DEFAULT AVAILABLE

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2016, 21:36 PMCultist_kun

How excacly you are suggesting to adjust cost? Make it cost 20 fuel? At very least for M20 20 fuel you get
1) Ability to repair it anywhere on the field
2) Ability to lay immobolizing mines (which no-one use for some reason)
3) You have don-doc smoke on it
4) Crew has free zooks
5) Its much less vulnerable to small arms fire
6) Also ability to cap points, by de-crewing it

What you dont get with it:

Ability to fight light armor


What 222 has:

1) Better sight range with vet
2) Ability to fight light armor, on paper, but usually its good only for "finishing" enemy light armor.
3) Ability to shoot down planes (but this is different problem, which should be fixed)

^ thats it.

So again how this HP buff making 222 cost more then 15 fuel?

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2016, 17:37 PMwhitesky00

Actually, they are a different unit called AT boys. Their snare only does half the damage of every other snare in the game at 50 instead of 100. Or are you suggesting we create a new unit?

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2016, 17:54 PMJespe

That section is amazing if enemy pushes 222 or luchs... It seem to wipe grenadier squads too at ease...

Idk if i am insane or something but i think Piat is O-kayish... Only problem i have with them is luchs and against those i usually have boys infantry sections (if i was not fast enought to have aec) The heavier the enemy tank the better piat seems to be.

I understand that with snare like Soviet/OST have IS with double piat could murder any vehicle (okay not KT or tiger) alone after snaring it. They would just walk to it and shoot it point blank to death..

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2016, 19:05 PMwhitesky00

Uhhh... I think we will need some test videos to test that theory. My AT boys are the most underperforming squad for 300 MP. The AT rifle weapon profile was matched to the Guard's AT rifle and I don't see normal Guards wiping grenadiers with ease.

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2016, 19:05 PMwhitesky00

The Piat is awesome like you said against tanks... The bigger the better. Ironically, their use against light vehicles, is all RNG based. Which is why I think some posts are justified in saying that UKF lacks a good light vehicle counter.

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2016, 17:48 PMwhitesky00

340 vs 215 mp is pretty big. 20 vs 15 is also pretty big.
the m20 is only less vulnerable to small firearms with 70 munition upgrade.
It doesn't squadwipe as some people claim it to do. It has just as hard of a time killing a retreating sniper as a 222.
It gets 1 bazooka... not more than one. The crew exiting the vehicle will not save it from a 222. I'd rather have it die and give it to rear echelon or riflemen (the bazooka). It costs too much to reinforce and use as mobile AT (i think 30?)

I feel as multiple 222s become more viable, it will completely replace the ostwind for AA. 2 222s will just shoot down all airplanes with only 30 fuel ;P

We will see how they perform after the patch.

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2016, 05:42 AMRollo

Price goes down to like 190mp and 13 fuel if you have the bullitins

cheaper than a bren carrier

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2016, 21:00 PMOmega_Warrior

The 222 definitely needed the health buff that it got. But I'm quite worried about the fact that the price was not adjusted at all. At only 15 fuel, the 222 is extremely cheap and I think this might lead to 222s being spammed too quickly for the allied players

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2016, 08:08 AMBananenheld

Yea what a relic fail, I mean bren carrier does cost more fuel!

Oh wait

Read the patchnotes carefully ? Maybe you will Spot the Part where they removed the fuel cost of bren Carrier. Maybe.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2016, 10:34 AMLooney

Wc51 20 fuel and 240 mp

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2016, 10:49 AMKatitof

Seeing relic balancing on the base of 222, WC51 will probably have something like 480hp next patch

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2016, 21:03 PMKatitof

You're concerned about M20 vs 222?

Try Greyhound vs 222.

222 owned it with old stats and that is 15 vs 40 fu.

Apparently 2cm autocannon was vastly superior AT weapon then 37mm Stuart main cannon.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2016, 13:49 PMBulgakov

"Lightly quoting Relic from last stream:

"Just because few loud people don't like the playstyle, doesn't mean the playstyle should not be viable and supported by us, there is plenty of strats and counters to everything".

Something like that.

So, put a bucket for tears next to your PC and keep on playing or learn to counter shit."

-katitof-

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2016, 13:49 PMBulgakov

"Lightly quoting Relic from last stream:

"Just because few loud people don't like the playstyle, doesn't mean the playstyle should not be viable and supported by us, there is plenty of strats and counters to everything".

Something like that.

So, put a bucket for tears next to your PC and keep on playing or learn to counter shit."

-katitof-