ML20, ends of OKW
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Just boomrush his ML20 with Luchs, remember to sweep.. L2p
ML20 its very inaccurate. It only soft counters OKW main style of noobs - when they make 2 leigs and sit there near schwerHQ.
Katy hard counters that but you cant make it fast enough.
Against infantry on the map it does 0 damage cuz it has like a low chance of hit it..
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Pory do you mean your todays game on Trois Points where the opposite double soviet team got two ML20´s sniping you at the cemetery?
It doesn't matter which game it was.
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But is another prime example of OKW poor faction design and again how they are at the bottom of the pile with yet another massive disadvantage over all other factions.
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I still don't like the fact that arty emplacement can just be two click out by axis. And like it has been pointed out OKW should be punished for placing there buildings to forward, but shouldn't be punish in the bases sector.
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I love arty, and just to point it out lefy can now do the same things to allies bases to. I think the best option is to make it so Off-map ability and the On map artillery can't be used in bases sectors.
I still don't like the fact that arty emplacement can just be two click out by axis. And like it has been pointed out OKW should be punished for placing there buildings to forward, but shouldn't be punish in the bases sector.
The difference is BOTH allied factions have a call-in or unit counter to the Lefe.
USF:
Major recon + off map artillery (on multiple commanders, time on target ect)
Priest
Soviet:
IL2 bombs
Their own Artillery
B4
Oshteer
Light arty barrage
Stukka bomb
The problem is the OKW dont have any off-maps to reliably deal with it, Even the scavenge doctrine's artillery covers a wide area and doesn't hit exactly where you want it to, making it poor for sniping a single unit it its area of effect. and 180 ammo is a lot for a good chance that it will miss or at least fail to kill the gun.
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You mean placing trucks forward in the field actually is risky now?
AH MAW GAWD!
On 90% of 1v1 and 2v2 maps you could build all your trucks in your own base and still be perfectly within range of the enemies artillery.
Replace the air assault ability in Luftwaffe Ground Troops with a Stuka Bombing Strike. Replace the heavy fortifications ability with a recon pass.
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You mean placing trucks forward in the field actually is risky now?
AH MAW GAWD!
Cuz it's not like it can shoot your base too
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Just boomrush his ML20 with Luchs, remember to sweep.. L2pTotally useless. Countered by a 30 mun mine on a faction that floats ammo. And you loose a Luchs. Good luck defusing mines in the entrance of the enemies base or even getting the sturmpio squad there.
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On 90% of 1v1 and 2v2 maps you could build all your trucks in your own base and still be perfectly within range of the enemies artillery.
Replace the air assault ability in Luftwaffe Ground Troops with aStukaMe-262 Bombing Strike. Replace the heavy fortifications ability with a recon pass.
We have enough Stuka in 1945.
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Well, unfortunatly, okw doesn't have any better options against base arty. The scavenge arty is the only other one that works in base sectors, but you need Los for it anyways, plus it's quite expensive.
Stuka doesn't kill the gun so it only delays death by a few seconds.
I guess we can always wait for Goliath commander
No. Stuka means you are speeding up your own death by giving him a free volley.
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From the game i played and those i watched, OKW players are used to place their base (flak) aggressively to deny territory and win easily.
Maybe its time to be a bit more cautious?
Sure there is ml-20, but also at-gun howitzer mode, SU-76 or others.
Thanks.
It is already so easy to just self-spot SU85 / ZiS attack ground / KV8 rush and kill Flak HQ in seconds last patch. l2p if you got a problem with flak HQ.
We are talking about a 600 mp arty that can cover the entire 2v2 map, from base to base
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Putting the flak in your base doesn't mean you can stop the ML20 bombing it. lel
This thing is not stuka dive bombing, many time all the 6 shot missed the intended target...
And it's only 2 more shots.. don't exagerate, we live with cas and walking stukas since the beginning... we know what it is to be obliterated... come try the allies and see.
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Cuz it's not like it can shoot your base too
What would you expect from him?
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Cuz it's not like it can shoot your base too
You actually read what he writes?
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This thing is not stuka dive bombing, many time all the 6 shot missed the intended target...
And it's only 2 more shots.. don't exagerate, we live with cas and walking stukas since the beginning... we know what it is to be obliterated... come try the allies and see.
Talking like CAS killed your base.
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