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it will definitely nerfed I guess, but it takes time to test some options. Makes no sense to increase the fuel cost to 5-10, when the OKW starts already with 40 fuel.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I've had more success with 4RE opening into 2-3 fighting positions. It delays rifles, but it will help you quickly grab bigger portion of the map, because the kubel can't chase all the RE's around. build a quick forward fighting position and wait for the first engagement, RE inside the FP will hold out quite long so you can ninja cap around and you won't loose that much early.
I'm sure this is the best thing out there vs the kubel.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
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Yeah, something needs to change in the OKW-US match-up, Kubel is very strong there. On cut-off maps it's a little beast.
But vs Soviets I don't think so. Just before the patch the Soviet-OKW match was very bad for OKW. Flamer M3, snipers trololol. Did just a bit more range on the Kubel change that completely? I don't think so.
M3 is on a fairly even footing, Maxim can't be suppressed + does decent damage and ATG takes 90% of its health.
If they move the damn sov M3 out of T1, I'd say nerf dat Kubel. But while sovs have such a powerful early game vehicle, I think the opposing side should too.
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Actually it does, delaying puma and flak HT, increasing window of opportunity for allies to use light armor against it and most of all, it will put a decision on OKW players-early trucks or early vehicles.
Stat changes are not the only way to balance a unit.
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The question for me is, why do factions have to rely so heavily on early light vehicles, instead of using infantry exclusively.
You can always add a jeep or a bike like it was in CoH1, a cheap support unit that is really strong if microed correctly, but on its own it does not do anything.
But I guess it's too late for that.
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I've had more success with 4RE opening into 2-3 fighting positions. It delays rifles, but it will help you quickly grab bigger portion of the map, because the kubel can't chase all the RE's around. build a quick forward fighting position and wait for the first engagement, RE inside the FP will hold out quite long so you can ninja cap around and you won't loose that much early.
I'm sure this is the best thing out there vs the kubel.
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Now let's just hope Relic doesn't do all of it and nerf it to uselessness.
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I think the damage is at least part of the real problem.
Right now, if you try to flank it and it gets away, it usually kill 3 or 4 models of your 3 riflemen.
By the time you finally manage to kill it, it easily paid for itself.
Isn't it supposed to be a suppression platform?
Right now its doing way too much damage on the move.
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Cheers JohnnyB ! Cool to see someone admit to a change of mind.
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10 fuel price no way, we want this unit still be built in the game.I will gladly pay 10 fuel for the Kubel as it is now. If you think it won't be built because of that, you are mistaken. It is squishy but worth it as it is now. In fact, I would probably consider building a Kubel on occasion vs the US, as it is now, even if it was 15 fuel (remember, there is a solid chance you get 5 of that back when it is destroyed).
I think they upped the damage to help counter sniper spam from SovietsBingo. The burst duration on the move is another indicator of this.
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