Der Fallschirmjäger
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I can't noticed their DPS any higher than 2 Volks, and they are crazily expensive. It is sad that the Luftwaffe doctrine is used only for the buffed MG34.
How do you guys use them? why do you choose them over Ober?
I can't find a reason using them except,
- wiping out retreating squad by the house on the retreat path
- fausting a near dead tank
- some Soivet guys park their maxim beside the house
etc
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I do not get obersoldaten with LW due to the FJ's being there with the volks and MG34s.
Airborne assault is good but I need to learn how to use it better in a match.
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You cannot use them alone though, as has been said; they are too fragile
Could do with a small cost reduction
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fallschirmjager, JLI, and sturmpios all come to mind that excel at these tasks. their individual medium/close range firepower is really impressive and can take on most squads in close quarters if they have the element of usrprise
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The main problem imo is that they die brutally fast. In addition they don't stay in their house when called.
It happens more than it should that I call the FJ only to see a small area for the short time and then I have to retreat them immediately to prevent a squad wipe.
Back then in Alpha they were beasts like pre patch Obersoldaten. Ah, the good old times...
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I mean, together with these Jaegersquads they just spawn anywhere in buildings without the need of LOS and thus spawn behind your well defended lines.
You got a triple vet mortar there? Np let met spawn fallschirms or jaegers here and wipe them instantly.
Your doublevet b4? Wiped.
I know about supporting your support weapons, but I dont like the fact that I have to babysit every squad.
Also, destroying buildings is indeed an option, but that takes so much time on maps like angermeunde or Ettel.
Seriously, its a joke.
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You can't keep a stable front if the OKW take them on mostly map. And soviet need this. You can do a rampage on maxim and ziz.
You can win the game just by instant poping them on a house on a retreat way (on moscow if enemy is in top location for example)and finishing all unit if the player back with low life unit
And also you can use them for cap behind line also (cap star on minsk for example)
But yes you can't spam them. They are very very expansive and the MP drain after the use for these things is huge. The price is not for the dps and survivability of the unit. Too high for this. It's for the possibility to instant pop in any house.
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They may be costly, maybe a bit too much, but their dps is still very high. Okw also gets access to Jäger, which can spawn from buildings too, Panzerfüs, that soak up damage and have 6 G43's that are way easier to get with 100% muni income, and Obersoldaten, which dps is ridiculous to say the least.
As US, your infantry cant do much when these elite units hit the field. Well, maybe with US lmg's (doctrinal!).
As Soviet, you need to get either Shocks or use Guards really really well. You cant go for script focused doctrines. You simply get your ass handed over to you.
Leave falls as they are.
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but how about if they got a received accuracy buff or armour or something? 'Cos they do get ripped to pieces a bit fast
@ Kreatir - It's not like they can destroy the B4, just decrew it. Try not building it near houses or guard it with an MG.
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you want to add more dps to a okw elite unit that can spawn from any building? please dont. no, nie, nyet, nein.
They may be costly, maybe a bit too much, but their dps is still very high. Okw also gets access to Jäger, which can spawn from buildings too, Panzerfüs, that soak up damage and have 6 G43's that are way easier to get with 100% muni income, and Obersoldaten, which dps is ridiculous to say the least.
As US, your infantry cant do much when these elite units hit the field. Well, maybe with US lmg's (doctrinal!).
As Soviet, you need to get either Shocks or use Guards really really well. You cant go for script focused doctrines. You simply get your ass handed over to you.
Leave falls as they are.
Panzerfusiliers only get 3 G43s.
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The upgrades could depend on doctrine abilities as well, assuming down the line more OKW commanders get to deploy FJs. G43s with a suppression ability instead of FG42s I am thinking of. A shorter ranged upgrade like MP40s plus stun grenades could also be another alternative. The FG42 itself could be an upgrade, though this might mean that one of the aforementioned upgrades will have to take its place as vanilla weapons.
I personally like to see the FG42s being an upgrade given their firepower, but this might mean reducing the manpower cost as well as finding a siutable alternative weapon for them, less they become near-useless for anything besides panzerfausting a near-dead tank. IMO their Panzerfaust is one of the bigges reasons why I even bother using them, besides an emergency deployment to help a firefight.
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