Panther overnerfed
15 Jun 2014, 05:58 AM
#161
Posts: 2053
The panther's performance is all right. T4 is not appealling, nor is the panther's cost, but once you do get a panther, all the work pays off.
15 Jun 2014, 06:24 AM
#162
Posts: 4928
Agreed, cost needs adjusted, but nothing else.
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15 Jun 2014, 09:04 AM
#163
Posts: 183
I would be very surprised if the tiger wasn't nerfed on WFA launch.
I would be very surprised if IS-2 wasn't buffed on WFA launch.
I've been using the IS-2 a lot lately and the one thing I have noticed is that the lower hp really makes a difference in comparison to the tiger, it just feels a bit 'off' for a heavy but I like it non the less.
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15 Jun 2014, 09:29 AM
#164
Posts: 807
Puppetmaster and Katitof, we understand your fanboyism, but please do not exagerate with it. Keep it under control so what you are posting can still be readable.
Panther is NOT ok as it is now, no matter how many unfounded things you will write. And it needs eather buffs at the current cost, eather serious cost decrease at the current performance.
Pzgrens are NOT ok as they are now, and need eather armor buff for this price, eather cost decrease for the current performance.
Except you are trolling, you really need to extract your heads from your buts and try to be objective a little.
Panther is NOT ok as it is now, no matter how many unfounded things you will write. And it needs eather buffs at the current cost, eather serious cost decrease at the current performance.
Pzgrens are NOT ok as they are now, and need eather armor buff for this price, eather cost decrease for the current performance.
Except you are trolling, you really need to extract your heads from your buts and try to be objective a little.
15 Jun 2014, 09:56 AM
#165
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Puppetmaster and Katitof, we understand your fanboyism, but please do not exagerate with it. Keep it under control so what you are posting can still be readable.
You are the last one on this forum to use that as an argument against anyone, you know.
Please apply your own advise to yourself first.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
15 Jun 2014, 11:00 AM
#166
Posts: 618
I wonder, will there ever be a day where people stop calling each other fanboys? I hope so.
15 Jun 2014, 11:38 AM
#167
Posts: 322
Is this too much for me to ask Panther have the same Anti-Infantry power as the T34/85mm ?
I mean please ?
Even with 3 MG and main gun fire, this tank ain't hit jack shit.
I mean please ?
Even with 3 MG and main gun fire, this tank ain't hit jack shit.
15 Jun 2014, 11:42 AM
#168
Posts: 1701
They say Panther in a good spot right now, lol.
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15 Jun 2014, 11:54 AM
#169
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
They say Panther in a good spot right now, lol.
They also say 120mm is in good spot, while everyone and his dog who have used it will say its underpowered, overpriced and not worth it.
Get used to current panther.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
15 Jun 2014, 12:00 PM
#170
Posts: 1617
No way the Panther is viable atm. Players can't get use to something that's bad. Same applies to the 120mm, osttruppens etc;. They just don't worth their cost and require changes.
15 Jun 2014, 12:12 PM
#171
Posts: 1130
They also say 120mm is in good spot, while everyone and his dog who have used it will say its underpowered, overpriced and not worth it.
Get used to current panther.
for 1 or 2 patches perhaps. relic has alws been prone to heavy handed buffs and nerfs. and this is simply one of them.
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15 Jun 2014, 12:13 PM
#172
Posts: 978
There´s a distinct difference between the 120mm mortar and the Panther.
One is a doctrinal unit that provides indirect fire support.
The other is a non doctrinal end of tech unit and the players only hope to counter heavy armor. This applies to half the German doctrines - which don´t have a Tiger/Elefant.
So no, we better not get used to it.
One is a doctrinal unit that provides indirect fire support.
The other is a non doctrinal end of tech unit and the players only hope to counter heavy armor. This applies to half the German doctrines - which don´t have a Tiger/Elefant.
So no, we better not get used to it.
15 Jun 2014, 12:20 PM
#173
Posts: 807
You are the last one on this forum to use that as an argument against anyone, you know.
No, I don't know. Comming from you it has no value anyway. Further, my posts are less extreme than your walls of nonsense. Let's not transform this topic into a pro-faction debate, started by you and your pal, Puppetmaster. You could at list pretend you want balance.
15 Jun 2014, 12:26 PM
#174
Posts: 618
IMO it just needs to be cheaper.
15 Jun 2014, 12:30 PM
#175
Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1
Is this too much for me to ask Panther have the same Anti-Infantry power as the T34/85mm ?
I mean please ?
Even with 3 MG and main gun fire, this tank ain't hit jack shit.
It would be slightly unfair for the Panther to be as good vs infantry as the 85 dont you think?
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15 Jun 2014, 12:53 PM
#176
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
No, I don't know. Comming from you it has no value anyway. Further, my posts are less extreme than your walls of nonsense. Let's not transform this topic into a pro-faction debate, started by you and your pal, Puppetmaster. You could at list pretend you want balance.
Ohhhh the irony and hypocrisy.
Reading you I almost have the feeling that you really believe in what you write here.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
15 Jun 2014, 13:14 PM
#177
Posts: 390
Permanently BannedYep SSHeini is German fanboy and probably a fan of the third Reich according to the "SS" signs in his name, that shows all. He is the biggest German fanboy here in this forum. He tries to make German even more OP.
The panther is all right! High costs, high rewards that's it. It doesn't need fast and furious blitzkrieg because as soviet you often just scratch the paint with your bad AT (except ISU).
The panther is all right! High costs, high rewards that's it. It doesn't need fast and furious blitzkrieg because as soviet you often just scratch the paint with your bad AT (except ISU).
15 Jun 2014, 13:43 PM
#178
Posts: 322
It would be slightly unfair for the Panther to be as good vs infantry as the 85 dont you think?
Well if not as good as the T34/85mm, than can it be at least like a P4 ?
Cause this tank ain't hit anything
15 Jun 2014, 15:31 PM
#179
Posts: 431
...SSHeini is German fanboy... Germans OP because they won a game against me, Soviets UP, buff Soviets, nerf Germans....
The irony is strong in this one. 3 vs 3 Player? You must be an expert.
15 Jun 2014, 16:29 PM
#180
Posts: 390
Permanently Banned1vs1 player? You must be very elite such respect much wow. Because there are no other game modes it doesn't mean they don't matter...
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