Profile of The Silver Sage

Well, OKW doesn't have viable air attack abilities, the existing ones are not even close from allied abilities in this area, especially USF and UKF. So I think their AA capabilities must be better than ostheer's. And they are.
Isn't this how it's supposed to be? Especialy when you have on the field exposed trucks.
Allied off maps abilities can be overhelming, so proper counters should exist. You want skillplanes running wild just because they cost 200 amo?
And if in 4v4 (good thing that we don't have 5v5, 6v6, 10v10, etc) these "free" AAs are so effective, if they are nerfed, how they will perform in 2v2s? Or 1v1s? The number of planes is the same, you know.

Furthermore, there is a question of proportions. If there are 3 Shwerers on the field, and one of the players use a skillplane attack ability, it's quite obvious that alote of planes will fall and this will diminish your air attack power. But if 3 players are using the skillplane ability in the same time, what would be the impact? You won't even notice that there are 3 Schwerer on the field.

I don't think the problem is real.

Johnny what happened to you man? You've gotten a lot more hard line in the last few months.

OKW originally had flak in base instead of mg due to reduced fuel income to stop allies base rushing with a quick light/medium vehicle while OKW waits for their first tank (which back then was most likely going to be a luchs or a heavy.. remember old flak halftruck with pack up and down time P4 was only a call in and not great at that (pre-okw p4 buff when you had to drop muni to get a decent medium vehicle (worse than OST P4).

With the changes that have been made it could be argued do they even need it now? Perhaps mgs in base would make a better approach?
Also in the same vein the flak gun of the Panzer HQ may need adjustments given the resource buff (although it does cost 120 now). I would first switch the base flaks and see if that is enough instead of changing both (you know not make a drastic change, do it in increments to avoid severe frustration for a player base).

It really does make it hard to get the lend lease air drop in with very little active thought being put in by the OKW player while allies have to actively invest fuel and sometimes muni to stop OST drops. I don't feel too strongly either way but I do feel Relic didn't foresee how the changes to OKW resources would impact the faction in a lot of ways.

Baseball and cricket both have a bat. Your subsequent claim that I am delusional because I have compared two completely unrelated sports is thus invalid.

Furthermore, I have never made the argument that 1v1 and 4v4 are completely different. This is something that you yourself imply, however.



Unless you argue that 1v1s are also "arty spamfests blobbing paradise", you thus imply that 1v1s are not 4v4s.


Your argument therefore contradicts itself

Kubel, his logic is undeniable. (Sorry had to say it)

This is very disappointing, preview patch showed how this was going to go down and they steamed ahead with it anyway. Interesting to see a few names staunchly behind these changes. Relic messing up the goliath damage just shows why this game will never be balanced.

For reference how much damage does demo charge do? 250 right? How is it fair that these things can 1 shot t70/stuart? Yet demo was nerfed as was penal satchel charge and UKF gammon bomb (and soviet arty), doesn't make sense.

He just said its intended in the very post you've quoted.

They're in shock, he's a bit confused.

Double OKW does fine till howitzers enter the battlefield and then it's pretty much over unless you already had them down to like 40 VP. All my losses so far since this patch as OKW are from getting stuck with an OKW team mate (or Ostheer team mate who didn't take a howitzer counter ) and then being fucked in the ass by 152mm shells.

The best solution to fixing 3v3 and 4v4 is to make it so you know longer have multiple players dog piling single points. 3v3 or 4v4 need to have 5 VP points as a minimum to encourage people to spread out more (like how it is in 2v2 and 1v1). It would give people more room to pull off flanks and other tactical shenanigans.

Artificially limiting fuel income is a good idea in theory but falls apart when you realize that it just slows the shitstorm down, it doesn't actually stop it.

That VP point isn't a bad idea actually, I find myself agreeing with you. There is nothing worse than getting 2v1'd and your units getting run down by the enemy who flanked his heavy infantry for wipes.