Lets talk Pgrens.

Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2014, 13:12 PMOZtheWiZARD

No. That's because I used them in a correct way.

Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2014, 13:12 PMOZtheWiZARD

No. That's because I used them in a correct way.

Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2014, 13:26 PMBurts

I don't know dude, i've seen some very good players including stephen and hans using them to pretty good effect. While PG might be underperforming, they definately aren't useless. If PG is buffed, so should PPSH be buffed abit because right now the PPSH does barely any damage at ranges more than 8 meters. While the MP 40 is still pretty decent at 12-15 meters...

Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2014, 13:50 PMJaigen

Yes you did but if your opponent was a bit better he wouldn't lose 2 scripts to a single pg. that your playing against newbies doesnt make the pg better.

Jump back to quoted post2 Jun 2014, 05:32 AMKatitof

Then you better switch to easier strat game like farmville, because you're going to flood forums with tears on WF.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2014, 03:16 AMThoseDeafMutes

I'm looking forward to half the new units getting hit by the nerfstick once there are actually enough players for a good meta with all 4 factions to develop.

Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2014, 16:58 PMOZtheWiZARD

No. With Conscripts he needs to close in. If he stays at range he will get obliterated as PG got better mid range dps. Scripts do sheep long range so he needs to close in. The key is to let him come.

Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2014, 02:01 AMwehrwolfzug

1. Pg carry assault rifles. These are not cc weapons. They are mid range weapons.

2. As long as you can double shrek them they are a balance issue if you buff their armor.

3. Pg spam with armor and shrecks is bad for the game.

4. They have a bundle nade and are for flanking not making the core of your army.

5. There are also doctorine that place them in armoured vehicles so you also have to consider that as well.

You have to think differently about pg. they are a flexible option for the ost. You only need one squad to supplement your core infantry maybe two.. They are used for tank hunting, at gun hunting or support weapon hunting. Use them in conjunction with superior german tanks and smoke. They are not for the human wave doctorine.......

Jump back to quoted post5 Jun 2014, 10:06 AMthestrongone

Aren't you one of the many soviet only fanboy posters here ? Reading through your posts you probably play 1% as Germans.

Next time play both factions and don't let the soviet fanboyism in you cloud your judgement. Besides Australians loving Russians is funny

Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2014, 05:53 AMVonIvan

Increasing their armor slightly honestly wont have a huge impact on their "surivive-ability" considering soviet mines, tank shots, and maxims would still be able to easily counter them. Giving them a higher armor value would allow them to finally be able to stand up to things like Shocks, which are a little bit more expensive than PGs, but wipe them out easily, even when PGs have mid-range advantage for a time, and con model snipes while they're on the move.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2014, 08:55 AM__deleted__

Could somebody illustrate concretly just how to properly utilise PGs? I cannot for the life of me see much point in them. As for Shocks, ye, you can run away from shocks all day long, try to bait them over neg cover etc., but with similar skill that still wont cut it....

Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2014, 06:50 AMMr. Someguy

The biggest problem with Panzergrenadiers is cost vs effectiveness. Yes they're usable, no they aren't performing well for their cost.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2014, 06:50 AMMr. Someguy

The biggest problem with Panzergrenadiers is cost vs effectiveness. Yes they're usable, no they aren't performing well for their cost.