SU-76 buff?

Jump back to quoted post4 Aug 2021, 02:58 AMAtomicgandhi

I mainly play Teamgames, but here's my 2 cents:

I think it could warrant another mobility buff, mainly to acceleration and rotation.
That would cement it as an alternate tank destroyer for the soviets; a nimble speedster.

Maybe also reduce its barrage cooldown to 10 seconds after barrage finishes. That would allow it to fulfill the Multirole tag line a bit better. (as long as you feed it Munitions)

This way depending on your playstyle you get to choose:

Do you want Recon+ a rugged pile of DPS and HP? SU85
Do you want speed and mobility, and Muni barrages? Su76.
Do you want a heavy-TD multirole? ISU152

Like how Axis players can choose between
Tank Destroyers (stug/miniJag),
Panthers,
heavy TD (elephant/BigJag),

soviet players would also have 3 choices for anti-tank playstyle.

Jump back to quoted post4 Aug 2021, 02:58 AMAtomicgandhi

Maybe also reduce its barrage cooldown to 10 seconds after barrage finishes. That would allow it to fulfill the Multirole tag line a bit better. (as long as you feed it Munitions)

Jump back to quoted post4 Aug 2021, 02:58 AMAtomicgandhi

I mainly play Teamgames, but here's my 2 cents:

I think it could warrant another mobility buff, mainly to acceleration and rotation.
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Jump back to quoted post5 Aug 2021, 02:35 AMPip

Alternate suggestion: Stop trying to change/buff its' AT performance, and instead turn it into an unit similar to the Scott/Stug-E.

Jump back to quoted post5 Aug 2021, 16:13 PMthedarkarmadillo

That's what I think may be the way to go. It's good stop gap AT but the su85 is there for hard late game AT, so let the su76 scale alternately.

Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2021, 19:11 PMAHandyDandyHotDog

The barrage ability should not be a 30 muni ability, it's been nerfed over and over again. The barrage ability should have its cost cut in half for both the Zis and SU. If it isn't buffed in price, return its effectiveness.

Jump back to quoted post10 Aug 2021, 22:37 PMKatukov

I have seen several instances of the su-76 in both my games and in that of other people by now. I got to say that it is a pretty underwhelming vehicle, confirming my previous beliefs on it.

It lacks dps and durability, even the range aside, the stug completely destroys this machine (and can straight up rush into it). In conclusion, you delay t-4 and a t-70, all for a low damage cannon. Not worth getting.

Jump back to quoted post10 Aug 2021, 23:13 PMaerafield

I use the SU-76 regularly, and I think it complements perfectly with t1 penal builds. In games where you are kinda low on fuel, you can slowly but surely get multiple SU-76, and I think they are devastating in groups of 3-4 because then you have a "tank blob" that will effectively trade in most fights, because if the enemy attacks you and loses a tank, usually you will not lose more than one SU76.


If fuel income is good, however, I would just tech straight for T34 and SU85 of course. Or get one only so enemy p4 rush doesnt push you off the map

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2021, 00:21 AMKatukov

the stug is 15 fuel more expensive, but inherits full pak-40 stats at vet 0. The su-76 gets less penetration and damage than the zis-3 does, veterancy doesn't make up for it entirely, either. Maybe i should just let it go and make 2 su-85s instead, who knows

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2021, 01:06 AMaerafield

SU-76 has 60 meters weapon range, same like AT guns and allies tank destroyers. That is its big selling point for such a cheap tank. The StuG has only 50 range.

The damage is lower(120 stock, 140 at vet 2), yes, but if it had the full 160 damage, it would legit be busted OP for the price