The game slowly moves away from an historical WW2 game

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2021, 21:50 PMMr. Someguy

Soviets and Ostheer are 1943-1944 based on unit selection and uniforms. For example the T-34-76 Model of 1943 is still their mainstay tank, but doctrines offer T-34-85 Model of 1944 and IS-2 Model of 1944, however the SU-100 is absent. Ostheer are using early-war uniforms and civilian coats in winter maps (to showcase the shortage of uniforms), and also have SdKfz 222's, Model G Panzer IV's, Model A Panthers, and Tiger I's.

USF and OKW are firmly late 1944 to early 1945, being explicitly based on the forces present for the Ardennes Counteroffensive, whilst the British Forces are based on the 1945 judging by the inclusion of the the Comet Tank which did not see action until the final months of the war; although it can also be noted that the Mk III helmet is suspiciously absent from UKF.




I'm with you on that, I do think the team should avoid outright inventing things that did not exist. On the other hand it's probably too late for that because we already have Stun and Incendiary Stielhandgranate's which are both absolute fiction.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2021, 21:50 PMMr. Someguy

Soviets and Ostheer are 1943-1944 based on unit selection and uniforms...

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2021, 06:37 AMCrecer13

Penalty units were only 1.24% of the total strength of the Red Army, so why are penal units the main unit and not a doctrinal one? Why is Germany Penalty units not in the game at all with a similar percentage of competitors? A - accuracy.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2021, 06:42 AMKatitof

44 ostwinds were ever made and not all that much more 50mm pumas.
German army used more T34s then ostwinds.
Let that sink in.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2021, 06:42 AMKatitof

44 ostwinds were ever made and not all that much more 50mm pumas.
German army used more T34s then ostwinds.
Let that sink in.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2021, 10:48 AMPanzerKampf

Source please.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2021, 08:13 AMPanzerKampf

And slowly becomes just a "flavoured" WW2 RTS game.

The latest balance patch did something more than just "balance" the game.
It implemented a number of changes that are completely against historical authenticity.

G43 rifle (while being similar to a sniper rifle thus good from a distance) gets changed to being good mid to close range. Really?

USF ambulance now takes 2 Panzer shots to kill. Its a car, not an armoured vehicle and even so in real life, if a tank would shoot an ambulance it would go boom with one shot.

I am playing this game because it is the most tactical and strategical RTS out there but also because it is a WW2 themed.

All these changes and more are turning the game away from a WW2 game and into becoming a custom RTS with a whiff of WW2.

I wonder if the magnificent balance team members have any clue or idea of the history of WW2 and the actual weapons, artilery and warfare being used.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2021, 12:04 PMTomDRV

Play steel Division 2 for accuracy

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2021, 08:29 AMKatitof

You gonna spam this very same thread every single day now?



Yeah, germany still lost the war historically.



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Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2021, 08:13 AMPanzerKampf

G43 rifle (while being similar to a sniper rifle thus good from a distance) gets changed to being good mid to close range. Really?

Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2021, 01:13 AMPip

This has been the case for a /very/ long time. G43 used by squads other than JLI or the OST sniper act as close-range weapons, I don't like it either, but this isnt new.

Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2021, 04:54 AMMr. Someguy

Why don't you like it? It's a semi-automatic rifle that is advantaged at close and mid range due to a higher rate of fire, but not disadvantaged at long range because it's still a rifle.

Its a car, not an armoured vehicle and even so in real life, if a tank would shoot an ambulance it would go boom with one shot.