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Are you sure?
I found no notes or references to this, only references to -50% accuracy for slot items. I thought Osttruppen K98 out of cover DPS was lower compared to Grens mostly because they only do half the damage.
I thought in-cover DPS of Osttruppen K98 was limited due to hit chance being capped at 1 and they get a lot of over-accuracy.
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Is it intentional that mechanized assault group from mech assault is not being replaced just with 250\1 call in, like it was made for mech. grens?
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It is more like you give up a lot of close to mid range DPS to gain a okay to decent DPS increase to long range and okay to very good when moving.
I'd say it is a side grade for sure, but it is not a clear upgrade as you say. Overall the upgrade a weird design for PGrens when looking at the additional abilities
Panzer tactician is no different than a skill shot. Hardly a "Free" get out of jail card.
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One thing I didn't notice you guys discussing was map selection. On some maps that g43 upgrade for PGrens will shine harder than some other choices. So that can be a viable reason why you would go for that instead of the other upgrades or not upgrading at all.
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IMO it would be nice if Stormtroopers with G43 had their stun grenade or flame grenade replaced with HE Grenade. 
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SO i was wondering. Once Sander told me the reason that Ass grens had lower dps on their mp40 compared to similarly priced Ass engineers was that they had sprint at the start and had no problem closing in.
Now since they don't have that at the start anymore can we see their dps increase a bit.
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Yep I am pretty sure.
It is weird mechanism that does not make much sense similar to KV-2 indirect reload mechanism.
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Just tested this, you are right. A single Osttruppen model has a DPS of around 1 DPS (took ~80 seconds to kill a Partisan model) when out of cover and 3.3 when in cover (~24 sec per model).
I am wondering though why people consider Osttruppen bad especially in team games and late game. Those modes especially have a lot of cover due to artillery. And Osttruppen are one of the most MP efficient squads possible.
Is it really "only" the lack of a grenade?
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I am wondering though why people consider Osttruppen bad especially in team games and late game. Those modes especially have a lot of cover due to artillery. And Osttruppen are one of the most MP efficient squads possible.?
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It the target size, 0.89 even at vet 3.
One can simply not rebuilt them because they get slaughter at late game.
The lmg is simply not a good upgrade them and currently they are not that good for crewing support weapons
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Osttruppen are only efficient in singular engagements against other mainlines, camping behind cover to wear them out before slowly advancing. Teamgames usually resolve more around assaults, massed engagements, HMGs, indirect fire and elite infantry. They are terrible in those situations.
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Unpopular opinion time: infantry combat was best during vet gate. The levels of bonuses some units get from very makes losing squads near impossible to recover from.
Imo (and I know it's far far too late at this point) but infantry bonuses should be SMALL Stat changes and abilities instead. Things like reduced ability costs or faster cool downs. Things that make squads more potent withiut making a replacement squad so neutered its nearly hopeless. Raise the skill ceiling not the floor.
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