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Battle servers exist to STOP the latency of one player carrying to the others. In this case US players might get a tiny edge over European / other region players.

Can't say I've noticed any command lag since battle servers a European player although if I played more single player I suppose I might.

The servers have vastly reduced drops /lag and broken games and were essential for the future of the game. A solution such as having a European server would split the small player base are and cut me off from all my US buddies.

For anyone who's played a lot of COH1, SC2 or any other game where you can get low latency, COH2 online play feels sluggish.

This could easily be done without splitting the player base. Simply route traffic trough the EU battle server if two europeans are playing against each other.

While I have no data to back it up, I too have the feeling that battleservers removed the worst laggs and hickups, but also removed any chance of those really smooth games I would have if I played someone really close. Right now I have som lagg, no matter who I play, but never as bad as I would sometimes have before the battleservers.

The data is quite easy to get, though. If you ping Relic's battle server, you get this:

TCP connect statistics for 54.209.64.161:27020:
Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Minimum = 137.16ms, Maximum = 139.02ms, Average = 137.81ms

In my opinion 140 ms is too much. And it's easily noticeable if you compare offline play with online. There is a constant delay on every unit response.

I just feel like it's too bad when Relic finally introduced battle servers they didn't go all the way...

With the new factions they are basically marketing it as a multiplayer game, so they should definitely do something about this. Europeans pay the same if not more for the game, we should get the same experience...

The battle servers are noticeably more laggy than running a local game. This is on a good system with high FPS and a fast, stable internet connection.

The battle servers are placed in the US. If I run a trace route to the battle servers I see that I have a ping of 140. Compared to the european Battle.net SC2 servers where I have a ping of 40.

The problem is that for europeans, the battle servers actually give a degraded experience. For example, if I got matched versus someone in my own country. Now the packets need a trip round the US and back, adding 100-200 ms of lag.

With COH2 having largely a multiplayer focus, especially in the light of the newly announced multiplayer factions, I really think this needs to be addressed!

The game is actually more expensive in Europe...

EDIT: added some testing results:

I recorded a video of commanding around a squad in CoH2 on the battle servers, where I counted the frames from the command was given until the squad starts moving. I did this at 30 fps.

I did the same for Starcraft 2 with a marine.

In COH2, it takes 17 frames from the command is given until the squad moves. This gives a command latency of 17/30*1000 = 567 ms.

In SC2, it takes 9 frames from the command is given until the marine moves. This gives a command latency of 300 ms.

The result is that the command latency in COH2 is almost DOUBLE of what it is in SC2. That's a pretty amazing result. In an appalling way. I would say every european player should be up in arms about this, at least those who play at a competitive level.

(Disclaimer: I am not saying battle servers are not an improvement. They are. This is not the discussion. I'm arguing for having a battle server in Europe. Keep this in mind when replying.)

Everybody is pissed of with me "just as planned". The best solution this problem is this. a soon as you build tier 3 or 4 the other building gets a 50 fuel reduction. this allows the soviets to rely on both buildings.

Nah, too complicated. Reduce fuel costs of both T3 and T4, but increase building time.

The battle servers are noticeably more laggy than running a local game. This is on a good system with high FPS and a fast, stable internet connection.

The battle servers are placed in the US, and I live in Europe, so the fact that the battle servers are laggy is not a big surprise.

It's just rather disappointing, as I was expecting to get a Blizzard-like online experience after the implementation.

They seriously need to add some battle servers to Europe. But I'm unsure if I should get my hopes up...

The problem now is that in some cases, the battle servers give a degraded experience. For example, if I got matched versus someone in my own country. Now the packets need a trip round the US and back, adding 100-200 ms of lag.