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Thread: 2vs2 Help required2 Aug 2015, 07:26 AM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2015, 04:54 AMT4rget_Pract1ce The issue with a charge or a mine is they have to go EXACTLY where you expect them to go which is not always going to happen and takes uninterrupted time to prepare making it a fantastic idea but not a good hard counter on its own. Additionally, the katyusha is effective when I hit the blob, but the cool down combined with the wait between the sound of rockets being launched and the impact (giving the enemy time to prepare) make it an effective ace up my sleeve and a potential game saver but not an effective be-all-and-end-all hard counter. I will say I have had some good effect with mortars against infantry blobs though. They have proven to be a much more consistent answer to OKW blobs. -They will go there. Unless the opponent is totally suspicious of you having mines/charges, he will take the fastest route. You can also lure your opponent by falling back through your charges (not retreating), which by the way don't have to kill the whole blob. even if you kill one unit it was worth the munitions. -Katy is not going to singlehandedly win you the game of course. But if he retreats to avoid being hit, then you held your ground and can cap and mine everything. When he returns you'll be ready with more stuff, mgs, quad, t70 (new patch hurray). And by the time he retreats you'll probably be able to katy his healing point. -Double mortars are my fav soft-counter to blobs as well -Try Shock Rifle Frontline Tactics. The incendiary barrage is the perfect tool to have when your katyusha is on cooldown. I have to say I must be missing something obvious but it just feels as though the early game benefits of Russia are far outweighed by the late game benefits of either German side, at least in 2v2, (and in 3v3 and 4v4 where the win to loss ratio was in favor of the Germans by upwards of 80%). My friend and I began playing as the German armies in 2v2 games and have had consistently more wins than we do playing as Allies. -You have more consistent wins because axis are somewhat easier to play. Riflenades have huge range and wipe potential, tanks are invincible, mgs don't require micro, etc. -3v3 and 4v4 are not considered serious/competitive game modes, just for fun. Also, everything I replied to Lendosan. In: Red Army Strategies
Thread: ML-20 152mm Howitzer1 Aug 2015, 19:18 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2015, 15:14 PMRustlinYoJimmies I don't generally base rush to see what base structures my opponent has and most of the time the first salvo is enough to take out a considerable amount of my units. I don't mind constructive criticism but I'm not an idiot. I know it's pvp. I was just bringing up the point that base arty that can fire on your base seems a bit ridiculous. The moment the first shell, not salvo, hits the ground, you know where your opponent clicked and what it was. The chances of that wiping your shit is there, but small. Move your units, wait for the storm to pass, and move on. Building a 600mp arty is a great compromise to map control/presence. Try playing arty and see for your self. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ML-20 152mm Howitzer1 Aug 2015, 09:20 AM -Its price is its counter, you can field 2 squads with that much mp, use that to your advantage. -If he has the luxury of keeping his arty until you retreat, then you're not pressuring adequately. -If you are getting a hard time against (this) arty, hold off your commander pick until you see what your opponent picked, so you can counter-pick. It might be 'annoying' to not be able to 'play what you want any time you want' but this is a pvp game, it's not scripted. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Why no countdown for rifle nades?31 Jul 2015, 05:19 AM Make the rifle grenade range half while suppressed, and increase cost by 5-10, problem solved. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The patch only made a new meta that's even more boring28 Jul 2015, 06:16 AM Boring?? Soviets can finally do proper combined arms. You see everything on the field, there is variety. Maybe you're wrong, and what you propose is just what you like. And since you like withholding all resources until 20min to get a heavy tank out, what you like is crap In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Schrek killing a ton of Infantery26 Jul 2015, 09:25 AM It's a rocket! Of course it kills infantry. If we're talking realism then you should know that dedicated AV squads/weapons weren't used to kill infantry. That would be a waste of munitions. How many rockets do you think a squad can/could carry? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How do i?20 Jul 2015, 06:20 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 05:37 AM__deleted__ Don't confuse new players Queen. Outlawstar, Kharkov is in fact a heavily Allied-favoured map, particularly if Allies get the Eastern starting position since the Western cutoff offers multiple flanking routes, lots of green cover and an LOS blocker in front of the capping zone, making it easy to harass and successively defend for the Allied player. Against double snipers/Guards/120s (I am a heavy user of that) perhaps the strongest counterbuild is to go for an extended T1 with lots of Grens (5-6) into a HT with CAS. As soon as you have the HT on the field, make use of redistribute resources and equip your grens with LMGs en masse. This can afford you massive field presence and in fact allows you to push a double sniper build off the map by simply outreinforcing it. However, by all means invest into a minesweeper as well. Any competent user of said build will spam mines and demos wherever he can. An alternative is to rush a PIV or Ostwind, especially if you get the feeling that your opponent, instead of teching, is stalling for his 85s. However, if you do that it is absolutely imperative to backtech in time, get 1 or even 2 Paks out and invest into the occasional Teller, quite simply because the 85s with mark target will faceroll any unsupported piece of Ostheer armour, to include a Panther. An MG is generally a bad idea against this build and in fact a liability. ^This, but don't expect your opponent to just sit there and 'take' your gren spam, so be prepared. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Conscripts need mid-game buff16 Jul 2015, 07:23 AM They really don't need those things. Cons are ok In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Side Armor Bounces14 Jul 2015, 09:01 AM Side armor is good and all, but the result is practically the same: Tank is in front of you, all good. Tank is behind you, really bad. Tank is to the side but closer to front, still ok but need to worry. Tank is to the side but closer to the rear, danger. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: 2vs2 Help required14 Jul 2015, 08:52 AM Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2015, 14:34 PMLendosan My friend and I have been playing some 2 vs 2, at first it was great, we followed our build orders and cap orders, we totally dominated. On our fifth game in, it was as if we were playing a completely different game where each, and every, German player absolutely dominated the field. 4) Matchmaking isn't a wondrous tool that matches you magically with equally skilled players. If there were tens of thousands players in the game, maybe you'd get even matches a lot more often, but with such a small playerbase, don't expect the system to work perfectly (or at all). Also, when you play with an arranged team, the first 10 matches (I think) are used to measure your skill level and set your starting rating, so it's only natural to meet players of varying skill on your first games. Worse part was: we changed nothing. That's the worst part indeed. It's a player vs player game. You can't expect to do the same thing and win every time. Opponents will react and counter what you do. It's up to you to do the same and be unpredictable. Now I play Soviets and my friend plays US. We have a good synergy, usually choosing commanders based on opposition and what works best with each other. What is frustrating though, is that we don't lose through good tactic's, we've noticed that each German does the same thing: Stall and Tech. However the amount of AT they can produce is outstandingly painful, so armour isn't any good. They blob up, making it difficult to counter. 1) If you "win" but you don't actually win, then you're doing something wrong. The scenario you describe is very common: You win engagements, secure your ground, then chip away at the opponent expecting to win. It's not enough,and unless you have your opponent triple-capped and on retreat, you need to keep pushing: -Have you won your side and have most of the points? Help your teammate. Switch sides and flank your mate's enemy. -Floating resources? Build caches or tech up. -Ask your self "what can fck my/our army up?" and build a counter to that, even if your opponent doesn't have it yet. He probably will, because he will ask the same question to himself. The general idea is to capitalize on your advantage*. I went against two immensely ranked players the other day. One had three ranks of Prestige (Siberian) and the other was a similar rank. Pinned by the Kubels, with no decent early counter, I was brutalised by a Flak truck very early game, and it was over. Matchmaking also appears to be out of sync, or everyone who plays OKW just plays to win and, thus, has a higher rank. First of all, you can't expect to do well against the top 5, let alone win, and secondly, prestige and level have nothing to do with actual skill. Also, the kubel has many many counters. You just lack experience. I'm sure there are many guides in this forum that will help you with that. 2) Guards or Shock? Both. You have 3 commander slots. If you're asking which one is better, you already know the answer: depends on your build order, strategy, opponent, map, teammate etc. 3) Are Germans obviously unbalanced, especially OKW? Before the rage hate replies arrive; what I have NOT said is "GERMANS OP!!1k&&3", Ostheer are perfectly balanced, we've found games against two Ostheer to be the closest, down to skill games. Its just the OKW "Five+ ranks of Veterancy, on the run AT support by dirt cheep armour that has so many skills you need two keyboards". However I will accommodate honest, constructive replies regarding OKW, just please don't butt-hurt here. I understand that most of you Play to Win, which is the reason why certain people will butt-hurt about the OKW comments, but; Grow up. Its an honest evaluation. You're obviously butt-hurt, so it's an honest, but emotional evaluation Obviously OP I'd say no, but really easy and newb friendly, yes. The only thing you can do is learn to react to the blobs, and have an early AT response ready. Hold your ground until you get a katyusha, and it's downhill from there. If you're still not winning get a second one. If the blob swarms you it means you didn't spot it early enough to react. Use mines and mortars, since your mate is USF and lacks those. Once you clear these skill/rating levels you'll see blobs less and less frequently. Blobbing is bad and is a sign of a bad player. Anyhow the point is; what is the point? If everyone plays Germans, and the majority of them play OKW, why bother? Should I just join them and be "Pro" through unbalance? Or can you help me defeat the OKW "Pro-notreallyimanoob" OKW players? Many thanks indeed Yes. Join them and see for your self how "easy" or not they are. You'll be surprised. In: Red Army Strategies