Profile of ferwiner

expensive ..... Only 20 more mp than riflemen and with less reinforce cost
It's like you get better rifle man but pay 20 more mo for extra men (they both are 7 pop cap don't ask me why )
When ober were strong light vehicle did exist but I guess they had a 5t man with a pak 40 on one hand and mg 34 on the other
Now they are tier 4 cost 400 mp and are 10 popcap

I don't get how unit without main strenghts of riflemen like weapon racks, snare, smoke, nades, T0, vet3 uber recived accurancy bonusses and so on can be called a "better riflemen".

Penals also have 0.5 moving accurancy modifier while riflemen have 0.6. This is pretty important as it completely nullifies the firepower of 6th man while they are on the move, compared to riflemen 0.5 * 6 = 0.6 * 5

Pretty bizarre. Have you guys seen the tourney yesterday? The only player who could semi-consistantly win axis games was the guy who won the tournament. Should tell you something about the overall state of balance. And yes, flamers on durable squads are a dumb idea.

I dont know about 3rd place match becouse the score is not available on leaderbords but out of all the other BO3s, so where people were actually close in skill, 5 out of 7 were 2:0s. What does it say about a state of ballance? These two 2:1 are also not "allies always wins" matches, for example Brosras vs Paul featured axis wins in first 2 rounds. I don't remember all the matches but there is also one close BO1 I remember: FaHu vs Quentin where quentin won as axis even after terrible amount of mistakes.

So in conclusion, out of 16 matches played in BO3 I can get results of, 7 was won by axis and 9 by allies. Is that one match enough in your opinion to say that game is imballanced?

Give penal AT nade and remove flamer ... Agree
No AT nade then they should be superior anti-infentry with flamer
Look at the grens and volks .. They have faust and excelent anti infintry upgarde, I really hope Soviets get such non commander unit.

Soviets doesnt have a unit with snare and AI upgrade even in any of the commanders

Not that they really need it but its a fact. And ofc penals should remain useful, people complain becouse soviets never used that unit as if they didn't have it at all. The same was with SU-76 buffs. Its a good trend to rescue forgotten units from the void, though. Changes were good and needed, most players just didn't have enough time to adapt.

Since when?

Well okw doesn't have it before building first tier, either tier. But hey, do soviets have penals in HQ? Okw also has LV in T0...

That is not early game, were penals are over performing.

AT nades are a vet 1 unlock and smoke is an upgrade, these all come a little later.

They are powerful early game, still mgs are available to both axis factions from the get go. Usf nades were also pretty early since you could get vet one with the ability, and the upgrade is pretty cheap and accessible, the only reason not to get it first is that you get the squad with the tier making your force even scarier.

So, in fact, both units are really powerful early game, but riflemen were a lot better in mid and late game. Penals are much like a one trick pony, they cant even throw short fuse nade or deal enough damage to kill the 222 fast, like shocks do, and the lack of smoke is pretty bad against long range infantry or mgs.

Rapid conscription, Wehrmacht has a similar ability with Osttruppen that I cannot remember the name of, recoup losses.

These are powerful abilities, but none of these is a simple muni into manpower one click conversion. Recoup losses gives you less than you loose so it is not a conversion at all, while rapid conscription and relief infnatry require having an army of cheap squads on the field to achive optimal, useful effect limiting player build order choices really hard. Still yeah, these abilities can also effectivly reduce bleed which is great.